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Classic Designs => Classic Planes => Topic started by: Randy Powell on May 21, 2020, 01:33:05 PM
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So, I decided to post a picture of my latest project. It's a Don Shultz Avenger. The color is a sort of light cream.
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Love the Avenger! Randy, is this a rebuild or a brand new ship?
Looking sweet!
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Been anxiously waiting to see this one pop up. The Avenger is a really cool looking design, for sure one of my favorite Classics. Scarborough's orange-ish one was super cool, can't wait to see what's in store for this one. ;D
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Tom, kinda both. My original one was destroyed. I took parts from it and some new parts and built a new one.
Wayne, so, this is a sort of faint cream. Will have 3 more colors on it. ;D
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I didn't have to dig deep to find this photo. I have a "special" folder of great looking pattern ships and paint schemes. This is one of my favorite.
This model should be the identical model you're building. Correct?
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Charles,
Sort of. Mark took a few, ah, liberties with the original design. He reworked the nose to allow a bigger engine so it has a 2" spinner instead of the original 1 3/4" and a somewhat wider fuselage. But other than that, it's pretty much the same. Don was a friend of mine and he gave me the original planes. He was a really good guy.
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So, a bit more progress. I'm going kinda slow. Since there's not deadline, I get to be as OCD as I want in finishing it.
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Charles,
Sort of. Mark took a few, ah, liberties with the original design. He reworked the nose to allow a bigger engine so it has a 2" spinner instead of the original 1 3/4" and a somewhat wider fuselage. But other than that, it's pretty much the same. Don was a friend of mine and he gave me the original planes. He was a really good guy.
Randy,
If I had interest in stunt, well, I do have a tad, this would be the model I would build. I always bring up Mark's photo from time to time. I like dreaming while I'm awake.
So, you're building the model exactly as per the original plans, no changes?
Were the original plans published? I'm guessing there has to be a kit?
Charles
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No kit was ever made. It was published in Model Airplane News in 1970. I'd have to go look at the issue to remember the month. The published version was somewhat different from Don's original as he had made some minor changes before publication. This is the original Avenger, called the Avenger 35. The slightly updated version was just called the Avenger. A few years later, Don designed the Avenger 76. Same wing/flaps and stab/elevator but a different fuse with a trike gear. I may yet build one for Super 70s.
Don was a disciple of Bob Gialdini and the Avenger was based, loosely, on Bob's Stingray.
Let's see, the other thing is, Mark, at the time of that picture, was a custom auto painter and a very talented guy (he's still a talented guy and a flying buddy). The finish on his Avenger was spectacular. Probably why he won the concours d'elegance award at VSC. Only drawback was, it took a lot of layers of paint. That, and the mods he made are why my original Avenger weighted 48oz (2 ounces more than Don's original) and Mark's weighed, well, a lot more.
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So, a couple more pictures. It's coming along. 8 hours of taping and masking, 10 minutes of painting. Then pull tape and find a bunch of minor issues, so, more taping and masking. Joy.
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So, a couple more pictures. It's coming along. 8 hours of taping and masking, 10 minutes of painting. Then pull tape and find a bunch of minor issues, so, more taping and masking. Joy.
Randy.
Oh my gosh!
You know my background is design.
In all honesty, you're on to something there. I like it! Did you see something that gave you the idea or did you just come up with this?
Looks outstanding, original to say the least and it's not even completed.
I love originality.
I can't wait to see the model finished.
Charles
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Charles,
It was suggested by the general shapes of the plane. Should be interesting, anyway.
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... The finish on his Avenger was spectacular. ...
Even though he had to deprive a lady of negotiable virtue of her stockings to do it.
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Yea, well, that's sorta Mark all over.
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Another great looking scheme coming along here. One of the many reasons I always enjoy watching Randy's builds is seeing the paint schemes develop, always tasteful, completely original, no "cookie cutter" stuff. Great inspiration from one of the best in the business. y1
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H^^ <blush>
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Run out of tape? S?P :##
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For your edification ...... just in case. Note the Mods for the OS-35..... Anyone know where one can find the S muffler shown on the plan? I would love to get a hold of one.
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For your edification ...... just in case. Note the Mods for the OS-35..... Anyone know where one can find the S muffler shown on the plan? I would love to get a hold of one.
That OS muffler for the OS 35S shown on the plans is the OS Jet Stream muffler that was available for the OS 30 and OS 35 engines. They show up sometimes on eBay. Good luck in finding one.
Keith
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anyone have a picture of an OS Jetstream muff
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anyone have a picture of an OS Jetstream muff
I am not 100% sure that this is not a copy. It came with my OS35s but it was not NIB, just new.
The motor and muffler are from 1976-77. Great motor for it's day. Muffler was more of a "legalizer".
Ken
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Wayne,
As a matter of fact....
A note on the plan,
The original Avenger 35 had an OS 35S but Don said it was underpowered. The plane is more than 700 squares. He retrofitted it with an ST.46 and then built another one that was built for the ST.46.
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Does anybody remember when the 1st of these was actually made. I built one of these or one almost identical (mine had thin side scoops at the wing joint like the F-4 but otherwise it was the same) but it was before 1969, probably 1968. It was my 2nd I-Beam. Johnson 35 (yes I also flew Combat) and guessed (wrongly) that their stunt engines would be just as good as the combat ones.
No offense to Bob but I like this plane better than the 105 and that paint scheme just flows.
Ken
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I did, in fact, run out of 3m fine line vinyl tape. Should be here on Friday.
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So, a couple more pictures. It's coming along. 8 hours of taping and masking, 10 minutes of painting. Then pull tape and find a bunch of minor issues, so, more taping and masking. Joy.
It looks like this one is IC from that tell tale round hole in the cowling so you have no choice but to go glossy..but..before those clear coats step back and look at how spectacular that finish is semi-gloss. y1
ken
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Ken,
The original Avenger 35 was designed in 1969 and campaigned in 1970. It was derived from Bob Gialdini's Stingray. Bob and Donnie were friends and Don admired Bob's designs. As I said, Don built 2 orignial Avenger 35s, he then designed and built the Avenger 76 (a likely future project for me). He followed 2 years later with a plane he called the Seahawker. All are very cool.
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These are Don's 1st and 2nd Avenger 35s
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These are Don's 1st and 2nd Avenger 35s
Thanks, I think it was the Stingray that was my inspiration. I flip the tips on most everything and that is why it looked just like the Avenger. Lots of really cool designs came from that era.
Ken
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These are Don's 1st and 2nd Avenger 35s
Tornado 3-bladers and white pants, those were the days!
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The Avenger is on hold for a bit. Lack of inspiration, I suppose. Other things have intervened. I'll get back to it eventually.
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The Avenger is on hold for a bit. Lack of inspiration, I suppose. Other things have intervened. I'll get back to it eventually.
Hang in there I know that feeling.
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After a brief hiatus, back to work.
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Not bad Randy.
John L.
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Hi John,
Well, it's interesting.
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Lookin good!
Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
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Randy,
Wow!
I think you're heading in the right direction with this scheme. There's more to come correct?
Lettering, creative font?
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Yes, there's more.
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anyone have a picture of an OS Jetstream muff
There's one on UK Fleabay now Bob. Search Vintage OS Jetstream muffler. This one is for the R/C carb setup.
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Yea, well, that's sorta Mark all over.
thats what i get for not checkng in here more often
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Hey, Mark. Glad to hear from you.
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Here's a paint scheme suggestion, Randy.
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Close-up of Mark's:
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Your evil Howard. The first one is based extremely loosely on Don's 1976 Avenger. And the other one is pretty but a bit heavier than what I'm shooting for. Mine will look fine, more of less.
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So, here it is. Ink then clear.
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Nice !
John L.
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Randy! You're a mad man! I'm very proud to know you... n~
Bob Hunt
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H^^ <blush>
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Looking great as usual. Too much work for this old man. H^^
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One note. This plane should present well and the finish, while not spectacular, should be serviceable. Mark's Avenger was spectacular. An absolute 20 point finish. As I noted, it was a lot heavier than my first one, but he was also using a much bigger engine. I have hopes Mark will build another.
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What is under the hood? Waiting for a shot ready to fly.
ken
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It's electricated. What depends on the final weight.
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So, here it is. Ink then clear.
Way cool. 8)
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So, clear is on. I used Custom Shop 2K Show Clear. It's a 4 to 1 clear and I used some reducer to thin it out a bit. Went on very well.
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I used Custom Shop 2K Show Clear.
So, it's officially a Custom Show plane. ;D
Looks awesome Randy!
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Are there plans for a maiden voyage?
John L.
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John,
Not yet. Probably fly it at a local school in a week or so. Or whenever I finish sanding and rubbing the clear.
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Beautiful. :)! Just whom are we wishing "Death" to on the tail? VD~
Ken
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Inside joke. You'd have to read a series called Empire of Man by David Weber and John Ringo.
Death to the Kranolta!!
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Inside joke. You'd have to read a series called Empire of Man by David Weber and John Ringo.
Death to the Kranolta!!
Thanks H^^
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I weighed all the pieces parts and I think I'll be able to get away with a 28mm 910KV motor and 4 cell battery. So, that's something.
And just started sanding the clear. Ugh.
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Not just ink lines, but 3D, curved, tapered ink lines. Wow.
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>>Not just ink lines, but 3D, curved, tapered ink lines. Wow.<<
Yea, yea. Whatever. LL~