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« on: May 21, 2020, 01:33:05 PM »
So, I decided to post a picture of my latest project. It's a Don Shultz Avenger. The color is a sort of light cream.
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Re: Avenger
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2020, 05:21:08 PM »
Love the Avenger! Randy, is this a rebuild or a brand new ship?

Looking sweet!
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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2020, 08:48:30 PM »

 Been anxiously waiting to see this one pop up. The Avenger is a really cool looking design, for sure one of my favorite Classics. Scarborough's orange-ish one was super cool, can't wait to see what's in store for this one.  ;D
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« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2020, 10:41:57 AM »
Tom, kinda both. My original one was destroyed. I took parts from it and some new parts and built a new one.

Wayne, so, this is a sort of faint cream. Will have 3 more colors on it.   ;D
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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2020, 10:59:48 AM »
I didn't have to dig deep to find this photo. I have a "special" folder of great looking pattern ships and paint schemes. This is one of my favorite.

This model should be the identical model you're building. Correct?

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« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2020, 10:00:36 AM »
Charles,

Sort of. Mark took a few, ah, liberties with the original design. He reworked the nose to allow a bigger engine so it has a 2" spinner instead of the original 1 3/4" and a somewhat wider fuselage. But other than that, it's pretty much the same. Don was a friend of mine and he gave me the original planes. He was a really good guy.
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« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2020, 10:02:22 AM »
So, a bit more progress. I'm going kinda slow. Since there's not deadline, I get to be as OCD as I want in finishing it.
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« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2020, 11:24:58 AM »
Charles,

Sort of. Mark took a few, ah, liberties with the original design. He reworked the nose to allow a bigger engine so it has a 2" spinner instead of the original 1 3/4" and a somewhat wider fuselage. But other than that, it's pretty much the same. Don was a friend of mine and he gave me the original planes. He was a really good guy.

Randy,

If I had interest in stunt, well, I do have a tad, this would be the model I would build. I always bring up Mark's photo from time to time. I like dreaming while I'm awake.

So, you're building the model exactly as per the original plans, no changes?

Were the original plans published? I'm guessing there has to be a kit?

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« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2020, 02:16:33 PM »
No kit was ever made. It was published in Model Airplane News in 1970. I'd have to go look at the issue to remember the month. The published version was somewhat different from Don's original as he had made some minor changes before publication. This is the original Avenger, called the Avenger 35. The slightly updated version was just called the Avenger. A few years later, Don designed the Avenger 76. Same wing/flaps and stab/elevator but a different fuse with a trike gear. I may yet build one for Super 70s.

Don was a disciple of Bob Gialdini and the Avenger was based, loosely, on Bob's Stingray.

Let's see, the other thing is, Mark, at the time of that picture, was a custom auto painter and a very talented guy (he's still a talented guy and a flying buddy). The finish on his Avenger was spectacular. Probably why he won the concours d'elegance award at VSC. Only drawback was, it took a lot of layers of paint. That, and the mods he made are why my original Avenger weighted 48oz (2 ounces more than Don's original) and Mark's weighed, well, a lot more.
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« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2020, 10:00:24 AM »
So, a couple more pictures. It's coming along. 8 hours of taping and masking, 10 minutes of painting. Then pull tape and find a bunch of minor issues, so, more taping and masking. Joy.
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« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2020, 10:12:37 AM »
So, a couple more pictures. It's coming along. 8 hours of taping and masking, 10 minutes of painting. Then pull tape and find a bunch of minor issues, so, more taping and masking. Joy.

Randy.

Oh my gosh!

You know my background is design.

In all honesty, you're on to something there. I like it! Did you see something that gave you the idea or did you just come up with this?

Looks outstanding, original to say the least and it's not even completed.

I love originality.

I can't wait to see the model finished.

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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2020, 10:52:14 AM »
Charles,

It was suggested by the general shapes of the plane. Should be interesting, anyway.
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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2020, 11:20:10 AM »
... The finish on his Avenger was spectacular. ...

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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2020, 01:02:51 PM »
Yea, well, that's sorta Mark all over.
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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2020, 08:23:53 PM »

 Another great looking scheme coming along here. One of the many reasons I always enjoy watching Randy's builds is seeing the paint schemes develop, always tasteful, completely original, no "cookie cutter" stuff. Great inspiration from one of the best in the business.  y1
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« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2020, 09:23:24 AM »
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« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2020, 08:29:48 PM »
 Run out of tape?  S?P :##
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« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2020, 12:06:49 AM »
For your edification ...... just in case. Note the Mods for the OS-35..... Anyone know where one can find the S muffler shown on the plan? I would love to get a hold of one.
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« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2020, 02:30:26 AM »
For your edification ...... just in case. Note the Mods for the OS-35..... Anyone know where one can find the S muffler shown on the plan? I would love to get a hold of one.

That OS muffler for the OS 35S shown on the plans is the OS Jet Stream muffler that was available for the OS 30 and OS 35 engines.  They show up sometimes on eBay.  Good luck in finding one.

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« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2020, 09:32:49 AM »
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« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2020, 10:14:42 AM »
anyone have a picture of an OS Jetstream muff
I am not 100% sure that this is not a copy.  It came with my OS35s but it was not NIB, just new.
The motor and muffler are from 1976-77.  Great motor for it's day.  Muffler was more of a "legalizer".

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« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2020, 11:38:03 AM »
Wayne,

As a matter of fact....

A note on the plan,

The original Avenger 35 had an OS 35S but Don said it was underpowered. The plane is more than 700 squares. He retrofitted it with an ST.46 and then built another one that was built for the ST.46.
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« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2020, 01:39:53 PM »
Does anybody remember when the 1st of these was actually made.  I built one of these or one almost identical (mine had thin side scoops at the wing joint like the F-4 but otherwise it was the same) but it was before 1969, probably 1968.  It was my 2nd I-Beam.  Johnson 35 (yes I also flew Combat) and guessed (wrongly) that their stunt engines would be just as good as the combat ones.

No offense to Bob but I like this plane better than the 105 and that paint scheme just flows.

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« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2020, 02:28:57 PM »
I did, in fact, run out of 3m fine line vinyl tape. Should be here on Friday.

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« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2020, 02:36:24 PM »
So, a couple more pictures. It's coming along. 8 hours of taping and masking, 10 minutes of painting. Then pull tape and find a bunch of minor issues, so, more taping and masking. Joy.
It looks like this one is IC from that tell tale round hole in the cowling so you have no choice but to go glossy..but..before those clear coats step back and look at how spectacular that finish is semi-gloss. y1

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« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2020, 03:37:30 PM »
Ken,

The original Avenger 35 was designed in 1969 and campaigned in 1970. It was derived from Bob Gialdini's Stingray. Bob and Donnie were friends and Don admired Bob's designs. As I said, Don built 2 orignial Avenger 35s, he then designed and built the Avenger 76 (a likely future project for me). He followed 2 years later with a plane he called the Seahawker. All are very cool.
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« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2020, 04:24:32 PM »
These are Don's 1st and 2nd Avenger 35s
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« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2020, 05:05:59 PM »
These are Don's 1st and 2nd Avenger 35s
Thanks, I think it was the Stingray that was my inspiration.  I flip the tips on most everything and that is why it looked just like the Avenger.  Lots of really cool designs came from that era.

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« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2020, 09:24:11 PM »
These are Don's 1st and 2nd Avenger 35s

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« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2020, 04:55:52 PM »
The Avenger is on hold for a bit. Lack of inspiration, I suppose. Other things have intervened. I'll get back to it eventually.
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« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2020, 05:39:05 PM »
The Avenger is on hold for a bit. Lack of inspiration, I suppose. Other things have intervened. I'll get back to it eventually.

Hang in there I know that feeling.

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« Reply #31 on: July 21, 2020, 03:09:01 PM »
After a brief hiatus, back to work.
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« Reply #32 on: July 21, 2020, 11:09:40 PM »
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« Reply #33 on: July 22, 2020, 10:54:57 AM »
Hi John,

Well, it's interesting.
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« Reply #34 on: July 22, 2020, 03:54:09 PM »
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« Reply #35 on: July 23, 2020, 08:00:13 AM »
Randy,

Wow!

I think you're heading in the right direction with this scheme. There's more to come correct?

Lettering, creative font?

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« Reply #36 on: July 23, 2020, 10:57:56 AM »
Yes, there's more.
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« Reply #37 on: July 27, 2020, 05:16:04 AM »
anyone have a picture of an OS Jetstream muff

There's one on UK Fleabay now Bob.  Search Vintage OS Jetstream muffler.  This one is for the R/C carb setup.




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« Reply #38 on: July 29, 2020, 06:19:50 PM »
Yea, well, that's sorta Mark all over.
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« Reply #39 on: July 30, 2020, 10:49:29 AM »
Hey, Mark. Glad to hear from you.
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« Reply #40 on: July 31, 2020, 11:59:34 AM »
Here's a paint scheme suggestion, Randy.
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« Reply #42 on: August 03, 2020, 02:34:57 PM »
Your evil Howard. The first one is based extremely loosely on Don's 1976 Avenger. And the other one is pretty but a bit heavier than what I'm shooting for. Mine will look fine, more of less.
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« Reply #43 on: August 31, 2020, 09:43:11 AM »
So, here it is. Ink then clear.
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« Reply #44 on: August 31, 2020, 10:16:31 PM »
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« Reply #45 on: September 01, 2020, 05:48:51 AM »
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« Reply #47 on: September 01, 2020, 10:41:55 AM »
Looking great as usual.  Too much work for this old man. H^^
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Offline Randy Powell

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Re: Avenger
« Reply #48 on: September 01, 2020, 12:17:40 PM »
One note. This plane should present well and the finish, while not spectacular, should be serviceable. Mark's Avenger was spectacular. An absolute 20 point finish. As I noted, it was a lot heavier than my first one, but he was also using a much bigger engine. I have hopes Mark will build another.
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Re: Avenger
« Reply #49 on: September 01, 2020, 03:29:17 PM »
What is under the hood?   Waiting for a shot ready to fly. 

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