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Paul Smith:
Comparing the Ambroid and Brodak Ares.

I happened to notice an old Ambroid Ares (built) and a kit of same at a friend's house.  I was allowed to take these specimens into my weapons lab for further study.

The other day, I saw a Brodak Ares plan. 

The glaring difference is that the Ambroid design has a straight trailing edge.  the Brodak as a significant forward-sweep to the TE, with the resultant "bent" hinge line.

Any thoughts vis-a-vis the difference?

Ron King:
I split this post off the other Ares topic so it would have more visibility.

IIRC, my Ambroid version also had a swept TE. We had to bend the flap horn a little and just lived with the slight alignment problem.

Based on my videos and plans, Bill's originals also had a swept TE.

Ron

RC Storick:
The TE is swept 1 inch on the original ARES and is no hinge line problem if you sand the TE square with the fuse center line. It takes about a 2 inch flat to do so. Then bend horn legs to 90 degrees to the TE. Problem solved. Works perfect.

Paul Smith:
I took another look:

The Brodak plan is swept forward 6 degrees.

The Ambroid plan is swept forward 2 degrees.

The green airplane's trailing edge  is STRAIGHT.  It appears that the assembler achieved this by sweeping the LE a bit more.  As a result, the spars intersect the LE a bit farther forward than design intent.

RC Storick:
Here is my Ares the TE is swept forward 1 inch each side.

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