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True Nostalgia Carrier Engines
bdt-m:
The 'King' of PC engines in the 1970's era was the ST C35. I don't believe any other 'plain bearing' engine dominated like the ST C35. Running high nitro, Tornado 9-8 plastic yellow nylon props, the stock STC35 plain bearing engines won a lot of local & National carrier events.
Some ST C35's were 'Beasts', winning multiple National Championships in Jr. Sr. and Op. PC. No other PC Plain bearing engine performed to this level, not the Fox or McCoy.
A True Nostalgia engine: the ST C35 pictured is the 'Daddy' of all ST C35's, it has been sitting in a box for 47 years after winning 3 consecutive Open National Championships in a row, a bit dirty, promise to clean her up and make her look as good as new. y1
Dennis Holler:
Dumb question of the day...I've been looking through threads trying to dig out the detail and I'm sure it is there staring me in the face as usual...
If I am looking at the right stuff, I'm seeing the 20 point engine bonus just tied to non Schnurel engines in general... I assume that is for Class I & II and profile? Is the plain bearing thing a part of this or not?
I didn't notice bearing type in the rules, but who knows what I was looking at LL~ LL~ Or is the bearing type question an unwritten distinction or is it spelled out in various club rules or something? And is it only applied to the profile class?
I think I'm getting mixed up between rules, classes, views, and opinions!! and probably publication dates as well LL~ LL~ LL~
And maybe further, am I right in thinking there isn't a "year" cutoff on engine's its just non schnurl engines?
So the old ST40's and G60/65's are good but they will generally be way down on power/rpms to the schnurl engine's?
So to the point, My new favorite engine, that OS MAX VR65 DF, clearly doesn't get the 20 points for the nostalgia engine. An ST.65 RE would though.. albeit about half the power maybe. And still the ST would provide the bigtime FUN factor for rolling in the Nostalgia class non slider and all that.
Paul Smith:
The engine bonus goes to any non-schnurle engine regardless of age. The major factor is that I don't know of any cross flow engines currently being built.
Things like ST G21's, K&B 40's and OS Max III are good if you can find one that isn't worn out.
So if you use a "bonus" engine and go 85 high & 20 MPH low, plus the 20 point bonus, you score 300 points.
If you go 100 high and 20 low with a modern engine you get 340 points. This is without the landing, old time design and scale points.
The old scoring system favored very fast planes.
With a 20 MPH low speed the break even difference is 85 MPH (bonus) vs 90 MPH (modern).
Paul Smith:
After further thought, I recalled the old 4 points per MPH formula.
With the same low speed, an increase of one MPH high equals four points on the score.
So 5 MPH times 4 = 20 points, which is the old engine bonus.
C.T. Schaefer:
Would this be an opportunity to say that I have several tuned K&B 4011 engines as well as a Johnson throttled Torpedo .40? These are from a club members estate. TS
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