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Offline JoeJust

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FAA new requirements
« on: December 15, 2015, 10:52:18 AM »
Lots of opinions on the SH as shown in main comment section.  The question I have regarding the new registration law is this; Will the law allow CL planes, but make the use of 2.4 throttle control illegal?
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Re: FAA new requirements
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2015, 02:24:15 PM »
Joe

My take is getting registered between Dec 21 and Jan 21 for free ($5 against a credit card then reimbursed) for first three years solves your concern about illegal flight in the NAS

Later I expect there to be all sorts of "special interest groups" who challenge or ask for exemptions

I suspect/hope, if common sense ever prevails, that all (pure mono or two line ) CL flight may be eventually exempted....

But the 2.4Ghz for throttle control of FF and Carrier may fall into the abis and never be granted some exception or waiver.

Just because it would set a precedent for everybody to claim RF control is limited in some way to only part of the flight control.  This will be too hard for them to study and become educated on the various ways a model aircraft might be controlled...

Remember generally speaking government employees are lazy (not all but enough to be a concern) and appointed bureaucrats are totally ignorant and will not be educated

I have followed and participated in several of these "rule makings" for the last 30 years and not yet seen any agency fully admit lunacy and revers them selves....they are bureaucrats and will fight to keep the new status quo, from what I have seen in the past
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Re: FAA new requirements
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2015, 03:52:06 PM »
According to the FAA site FAQs, the thered and unthered planes are included. Last time I looked CL planes were thered.

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Re: FAA new requirements
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2015, 05:36:49 PM »
 Dear AMA Members,

Yesterday, the AMA Executive Council unanimously approved an action plan to relieve and further protect our members from unnecessary and burdensome regulations. This plan addresses the recently announced interim rule requiring federal registration of all model aircraft and unmanned aircraft systems (UAS) weighing between 0.55 and 55 pounds.

AMA has long used a similar registration system with our members, which we pointed out during the task force deliberations and in private conversations with the FAA. As you are aware, AMA's safety program instructs all members to place his or her AMA number or name and address on or within their model aircraft, effectively accomplishing the safety and accountability objectives of the interim rule. AMA has also argued that the new registration rule runs counter to Congress' intent in Section 336 of the FAA Modernization and Reform Act of 2012, otherwise known as the "Special Rule for Model Aircraft."

The Council is considering all legal and political remedies to address this issue. We believe that resolution to the unnecessary federal registration rule for our members rests with AMA's petition before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia. This petition, filed in August 2014, asks the court to review the FAA's interpretation of the "Special Rule for Model Aircraft." The central issue is whether the FAA has the authority to expand the definition of aircraft to include model aircraft; thus, allowing the agency to establish new standards and operating criteria to which model aircraft operators have never been subject to in the past.

In promulgating its interim rule for registration earlier this week, the FAA repeatedly stated that model aircraft are aircraft, despite the fact that litigation is pending on this very question. The Council believes the FAA's reliance on its interpretation of Section 336 for legal authority to compel our members to register warrants the Court's immediate attention to AMA's petition. 

While we continue to believe that registration makes sense at some threshold and for flyers operating outside of a community-based organization or flying for commercial purposes, we also strongly believe our members are not the problem and should not have to bear the burden of additional regulations.  Safety has been the cornerstone of our organization for 80 years and AMA's members strive to be a part of the solution.

As we proceed with this process, we suggest AMA members hold off on registering their model aircraft with the FAA until advised by the AMA or until February 19, the FAA's legal deadline for registering existing model aircraft.

Holding off on registration will allow AMA time to fully consider all possible options. On a parallel track, it also allows AMA to complete ongoing conversations with the FAA about how best to streamline the registration process for our members.

In the near future, we will also be asking our members to make their voices heard by submitting comments to the FAA's interim rule on registration. We will follow-up soon with more detailed information on how to do this.

Thank you for your continued support of AMA. We will provide you with more updates as they become available.

Kind regards,


The AMA Executive Council

Bob Brown, AMA President
Gary Fitch, AMA Executive Vice President
Andy Argenio, AMA Vice President, District I
Eric Williams, AMA Vice President, District II
Mark Radcliff, AMA Vice President, District III
Jay Marsh, AMA Vice President, District IV
Kris Dixon, AMA Vice President, District V
Randy Cameron, AMA Vice President, District VI
Tim Jesky, AMA Vice President, District VII
Mark Johnston, AMA Vice President, District VIII
Jim Tiller, AMA Vice President, District IX
Lawrence Tougas, AMA Vice President, District X
Chuck Bower, AMA Vice President, District XI

Offline BillCalkins

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Re: FAA new requirements
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2015, 05:38:33 PM »
Also, got this:

Well, just thought I should jump back on here and give everyone some updated info.

 

The AMA Executive Council meet last night and gave us some direction.  Note that there have been some changes on what AMA’s position is and how it effects our members.

 

1.       The AMA has been assured by FAA that registration only applies to RC aircraft. Traditional CL aircraft are exempt.  However, if you use RC in any of your CL aircraft (some do) then you would have to register.

2.       AMA is now recommending that AMA members hold off on registration while AMA pursues legal action.  AMA will be putting out another e-mail concerning this later today or tomorrow with more details on how this position came about.

 

So, the bottom line here is that this situation is fluid and there are almost daily changes.  Please, PLEASE make sure you are getting the latest e-mails from AMA and check the website DAILY to make sure you have all the current info.

 
Tony Stillman

Flying Site Assistance Coordinator/Competitions-Technical Director

Academy of Model Aeronautics

www.modelaircraft.org

800-435-9262 Ext. 230


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