Here is just one of the prototypes of our new beginners Profile Carrier Plane.  It will come as a nearly ARF, with 3-line bellcrank,tip weight, leadout guide, leadouts, doubler's glued in place along with motor mounts glued in place etc. it will have a 2 piece foam core wing and will be about a 320 or so square wing. Right now it will be delivered within the U.S. for about $70 depending on yet to be solved shipping box weight.

While it is designed especially for the new NW .40 Profile event and is set up for the only engine specified, the FP .40, it also could be a start up plane for any individual flier  that might like to give Carrier light a try without breaking the bank.

Right now we plan only building 30 of these kits for 2011.  When all the remaining "bugs" are worked out we will advise and put in the threads for items for sale.

Joe Just

Joe I do want one for fun, but you can never tell where it will lead.

Joe I do want one for fun, but you can never tell where it will lead.

Neal, the first one out the door on the latest run is yours!  Will ship soon.
Joe

OK, Here's WASUP?

I need about another 2 weeks to get the first batch ready for shipment.  This includes getting new shipping boxes, getting mailing costs settled, finishing work of minor surgery on the wing mounted line guide placement  and speding some time with our new Marine (grandson) who has now finished his Combat training and now home on leave 250 miles from here. Also am about done writting the assembly manuel.

Right now I am considering the sale price and wondering if a flat shipping price is wise.  Perhaps I may ship and ask for exact shipping cost to be returned by the buyer after delivery.  Tried this once in the past and it worked pretty good even though I had to wait sometimes for shipping costs to be re-bated.

I can save myself and the buyer a couple or 3 dollars if I do not ship spars but ask the buyer to buy them at a local source.  What thinkest thou? This will allow a smaller box to be ordered, thus saving me and the buyer some dough.

Joe

1/4" x 1/4" x 40".

Joe

Lol...We had SITREPS in the AF too....I am in Joe...Whatever is easiest for you ...cheaper is fine...I can
get that stock if  I don't already have it local.   Please advise on how much to send when you are ready.
Paypal is fine too.   Thanks...Dave.

OK, here's the info for David, Jim and the thousands of possible customers waiting with baited breath.

PayPal is fine, there will be a small extra charge for using this service.  more than likely $2.00

Money orders, checks, gold dust and obscene requests considered. No COD's. Banks offshore are too busy with my other business to bother with what with major E-leaks recently.

Spars will no longer be included unless spars are requested.

The bell crank shown in the pictures will come with the plane.  Majory surgery will be needed if you use a Brodak BC.

Basic postage charge will be $15.  If it costs more that $15 as noted on your package, you are asked to refund the balance.  If in the unlikely case you really hate the kit and want to return it the return postage is your responsibility. I hate to sound like a barracks lawyer, but things are what they are in today's market.

Semi-ARF kit pricing is $50 plus postage.  All kits will be sent Priority mail with receipt conformation included. I will beginshipping kits in about one week.

Now, the PM problem.....I can receive PM's, but my computer will not allow me to answer or send PM's.  When I try, and I have tired nearly 50 times, a box appears noting an error by my previous email provider (BMI.net) that dissalows this type of message.  I have tried repeatedly to get my previous provider (BMI.net) to explain this to me, but they are as puzzled as I am.  Now I recently changed providers (q.net), guess what?  The same message appears with the BMI message intact. q.com does not have an answer either. Stunt hanger implies that it must be a problem on my end (no sh##) In any case, unless some 3rd gradeer passes by and i can convince him to drop in and help me i am S Out Of Luck!  Any suggestions?  Dont forget, I am completly computer (as wll as other subjects) stupid.

Joe Just 

" Open Control Panel, go to Add-Remove programs and see if anything is listed for BMI.NET if it is listed remove it.. Restart the computer and see what happens...."


If it smokes, you know something is wrong..........

In my opinion carbon is not  necessary.  Spruce or balsa is all that is needed. Dont spend the extra $$ for this plane

Not sure I am willing to try the advice on deleating anything on this computer without skilled help at hand. Here' s my address

(*&^&&*(ukeyman)@#@#$(at)@#$%(q)!@#(dotcom)!@#$%^

Joe

Joe,
most likely its the security settings in your browser,, I beleive that the PM system is java or some other script, if the security settings in your computers browser are set restrictive, then it will prevent unkown "scripts": from running under the premise that they may be virus'
I wont even attempt to talk you through that on the phone though, without being able to see your screen, its a crap shoot.

Profile "WILDCAT" KITS READY TO SHIP!
Check out posting in "Classified" section.  We have lowered costs by not including 1/4" spars, saving box and shipping costs. Only 16 left as of this morning,12/27.

Thanks to all for the encouraging emails, etc.
Joe Just

The plan is to fly it at all Northwest contests in 2011 starting with Portland in April.

                                                                                                                                       Mike

Well I may have gotten a bit enthusiastic but shall I say all that I can get enough intrest up. I also have a deck hauling problem. Since I no longer have a truck I will have to rely on someone else to move the deck in the Seattle area.    Mike

Hi Joe,

I didn't post here with a report on receiving my kit, sorry!  It is everything it is promised to be.  And in my "no carrier or three line experience" situation, that is good.  Minimal construction, all controls are installed.  Just need to mount an engine, glue together the parts, hook up the pushrods, etc., and paint it! 

A long time ago, I was gifted a Roberts 3 line handle and later a Brodak version.  Hopefully either of these will work. (??)  I also was gifted a couple sets of "3 wire" lines, in excellent shape.  Everything is hopeful for some summer "fleet operations!" 

Thanks, Joe
Bill

Thanks Dennis!  Here is a picture of one of our "Wildecat kits as built by neal Beckman of the NYC area.  We have been very pleased with the positive feedback we are getting.
Joe Just

WOW....she is very pretty.  I sure wish I could fly carrier......but being alone for a hundred miles seems to preclude that! LOL  Very nice looking little ship.

Hi Glenn,

I only have Aaron here (he's only 30 miles away! LOL!!) so we are somewhat alike in that respect!

I have never flown a three line C/L job.  I have wanted to for close to 50 years, just never have! LOL!!  This "kit" from Joe is going to change that.  I can easily make some sand bags and some eye hooks to push into the ground to simulate the carrier wires.  That will be the easy part.  A "real" model carrier deck isn't necessary to practice.........  We always have to fly off grass/dirt so that will make it a "little" easier on the gear during the learning curve.

Go for it, you won't be disappointed!
Bill

I did mess around with it years ago and still have a scale carrier plane (Fairey Albacore, WWII Biplane) hanging over my desk.  The reality is cost and lack of anyone to do it with.  If I had even one person around here who liked it, I would do it for sure.  I have been working with youth, helping them get into control line, but none have kept up with it, or they have moved away....sigh

Do you have any one to launch for you?  (but I am guessing a carrier plane could still be launched using a stooge, but I don't like stooges! LOL!!)

The "costs" seem to be very low for planes of this type, less than a full blown "stunter". 

Bill

Yes flying carrier alone can hinder a little.  I fly out of a stooge, stunt, sport or carrier.  Granted the high performance stuff does not work as well as when you have someone to work with,  but you have to do what you can.   That is why I have no class I or II carrier planes.  Flying three line can be a blast, especially when an RC'r comes across the parking lot to suggest to you how to get your engine to run steadier.  They don't realize that we are flying up wind and down wind each lap.  Of course when you get one to hover it blows their mind that it stays on the end of the lines.   I just chuckle when they talk about the 3D flying foam toys being referred to as flying.   Anyway if I didn't have so many planes I think Joe's Wildcat Profile would make a great trainer for control line.  If you get dizzy, slow down and land.  Then excelerate and fly again.   

I have flown three line before and its a blast.  Your going to have a whole new appreciation for what fun is!  Try firing her up in the safety area and taxi out for take-off....then when you land....taxi her back!