Leave Sportsman as is.  Add NW 40 to the Sportsman  top 20 listing with an asterex showing that the entry is NW 40.?  The current record in NW 40 is slightly over 210, or there abouts.  With that, guys/gals competing in scheduled Sportsman events (Like at Brodak's) will have the opportunity to have their scores shown as will Guys/gals flying NW 40 elsewhere.  This way nothing much really changes.  What do you think?
Joe

Why not just have a NW 40 top twenty?

Eric
Yes that is what I said, just add nws40 to the list of events on the top 20.
John

Joe
I am having trouble following the logic. You guys have a successful event right? Why the desire to mix it with other events? Why not just fly and have fun. It is a hobby right?

By the way if the PA guys get on you to much, look at all the different ones they have a Brodak's. And most of the carrier fliers at Brodak's also fly stunt, heck I even have flown stunt there.

John

My response "That can work." was made so with an open mind.

I researched NW40 on Flying Lines by reading the rules, commentary, and reviewing contest results. Then I did the same for Sportsman both by looking at NCS archive documents, and also by visiting the Brodak Fly-In web site for the same thing; rules and all 13 years of results that were posted.

Two things became obvious. First, the stated governing philosophies in each reference are for all intent and purposes identical, namely to provide an alternative to the all out competitive nature of AMA Profile Carrier for those who, for whatever reason, do not wish to compete at that level. As I understand Joe's proposal, he wants to protect that philosophy.

Second, with only a single exception a NW40 model is a Profile Carrier model. That exception is a spec .40 R/C engine that in reality does not put out any more power than an average .35, and probably less. Also, NW40 models can not have sliders.

In terms of scoring potential, a well flown NW40 will do 190 - 195 on average. That would place it in the middle of Sportsman so they would not upset the competitive balance. The attached picture is a GS(Brodak) Skyraider built by Mike Potter for NW40. He scored a 191.70, which was good for 2nd, at the recent Jim Walker meet. What's not to like.

There would have to be a way to make sure that the NW40 pilots fit into the Sportsman division, as called for by the rules. Unfortunately, apparently no one wants to fly AMA Profile Carrier in the region and it is not supported by the Northwest organization. Some other way would have to be worked out other than by using entry in AMA Profile as the deciding factor.

Finally, I saw this as an opportunity for the Navy Carrier Society to become more involved in the Northwest. It's our role as the C/L Navy Carrier SIG to promote what we like to fly. It honestly seemed pretty straightforward.

The principle difference between NW40 and AMA Profile is that NW40 is flown with engines that people can buy today. 
AMA Profile is dominated by a few special engines built decades ago that nobody else can get today.
So let AMA Profile become and "old time" event for the few guys who want take it to the grave and let NW40, or better yet, stock 25, become the new standard.

Couldn't be more wrong. Call Henry he will sell you a brand new engine or find a used 40 and send it to him, he will convert it to a 36.......EVEN THE SUPER EVIL REVERSE ROTATION..........GASP!!!

Well said Pete!  After lookin g at the number of people that have looked at the last two threads I'm  inking there must be gobs of folks kin d of interested in an easier profile class, but most lookers seems not willing to give us their thoughts. Really please for somebody that has flown the NW 40 event to be so positive.
I think what we will wind up with is NW Spot 40 added to the top 20 listing, particularly if NW 40 remains as an event  intended for some that might not want to "push the envelope" of Profile competition.

Joe

BTW, I will now offer a good prize to the person placing at # 20 in the new  (if it ever gets started) listing for 2017

     Paul, how about giving us a list of engines .40 down to .15 that we can buy "off the shelf" at the present time.