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Offline mike londke

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Detroit Carrier Video
« on: May 22, 2013, 02:39:11 PM »
A few clips of the action.  Mike     
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Re: Detroit Carrier Video
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2013, 04:30:03 PM »
Thanks for a great video of carrier flying.   Two of my heroes, Mark and Leon.  Haven't seen them in years.   Tell them the old DOC says hi.
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Re: Detroit Carrier Video
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2013, 05:01:40 PM »
Mike, thanks for the video.
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Re: Detroit Carrier Video
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2013, 07:55:37 PM »
Great video - thanks!  How about details of the "deck"?  Looks like a very easy way to set up for contests and practice.  Are the angle pieces anchored to the pavement? Are they connected together somehow?  How are the ropes retained?  You all will be at the NATS, right? 

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Re: Detroit Carrier Video
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2013, 08:06:19 PM »
Mike, thanks for the video. Marc does not often cruise the net, so I just sent him a copy of your viveo fror his purusal.  I attended a Carrier meet at that site (Rouge Park) several years ago while visiting Marc and scared the heck out of everybody when I got inverted with one of Mark's planes and ran it through two or three laps until I got up enough nerve to bring it around.  I really enjoyed the deck just marked out on the pavement and as I remember it there were either wood or metal rails nailed into the ground to support the bags and ropes.
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Re: Detroit Carrier Video
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2013, 08:12:49 PM »
That's a first for me. I'm off to look up the rules now, so I know more about what I'm watching. They do have an odd leadout configuration, I can see that much. A third line for a throttle too, I guess? Thanks for the video.
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Re: Detroit Carrier Video
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2013, 09:44:45 PM »
I'm pretty sure the wood strips are just nailed to the cracks at the expansion joints of the paving.  There are a few negatives about this type of deck.

The big plus is that it only requires one man and Radio Flyer wagon vs four men, a U-Haul, and truck to pull it.

The plywood of a regular deck has a little bit of "give" to it.  But we learned to land softer and live with the pavement.  The short landings and long takeoffs call for a bit of judgement.  With a real plywood deck the fouls are self-enforcing.

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Re: Detroit Carrier Video
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2013, 11:34:54 PM »
Great video - thanks!  How about details of the "deck"?  Looks like a very easy way to set up for contests and practice.  Are the angle pieces anchored to the pavement? Are they connected together somehow?  How are the ropes retained?  You all will be at the NATS, right? 
  Ron, I was there to fly combat, I am not a Carrier flyer. When I had a few extra minutes I shot some of the Carrier flights. I don't know the details on the deck. Maybe someone could provide more detail on how it is built and set up. I would imagine some of these guys will be at the Nats. I am sure they would be willing to answer any questions you have cause they were a nice group of guys.  Mike
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Re: Detroit Carrier Video
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2013, 05:49:11 AM »
Great video - thanks!  How about details of the "deck"?  Looks like a very easy way to set up for contests and practice.  Are the angle pieces anchored to the pavement? Are they connected together somehow?  How are the ropes retained?  You all will be at the NATS, right? 

Ron, the deck outline at Detroit is a series of wood strips that are anchored to the circle with prepositioned inserts that were installed a long time ago. There are six (or eight I don't remember)  strips numbered for assembly and the stips have eye hooks installed to hold the bags. The outline of the deck is painted permanantly on the circle. When the deck is removed the holes sometime are temporarilly putyed up. There are two positions availble on the circle based on wind direction. It does work out well. Paul is correct that being lower than a traditional deck presents some problems however it's better than nothing. Detroit has a traditional deck available but there has not been enough young labor available to use it for a lot of years. In the end on sunday it was Marc Warwashana, Lee Ryktarsik and Paul Smith from the Detroit area, along with Gary Hull, Rick Essex and myself (Wayne Buran) from Cleveland that was the contest. Like I said "better than nothing". We had a graet time!
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