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Dayton Carrier yesterday, Saturday Oct 6, 2018
« on: October 07, 2018, 11:53:03 AM »
It went well, thanks to Bob Heywood and has staff.  Temperature peaked at 87, bone dry and no wind.  I'll leave it to Bob to detail the scores and get all the names spelled correctly.

By my count there were five Carrier flyers. 
I recorded improved scores in four events without mishap.
Pete Mazur flew all three AMA-E classes and may have improved one of the records he holds.  All three of his E-carrier MO-1's do about 100 high and 5 MPH low.
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Re: Dayton Carrier yesterday, Saturday Oct 6, 2018
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2018, 05:44:20 PM »
Thanks for your update Paul. You had a good day. I and Gary Hull enjoyed it. Thanks to Bob Heywood for putting it all together.
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Re: Dayton Carrier yesterday, Saturday Oct 6, 2018
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2018, 06:29:40 AM »
nice meeting you this weekend!  I may need to build a bird to compete next year..

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Re: Dayton Carrier yesterday, Saturday Oct 6, 2018
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2018, 06:58:24 AM »
I haven't got the pictures shrunk down to under one megaton each yet, but I'll post a few as I go along.

Pull testing is one of the most dramatic parts of Carrier.  Note two men on the scale.  The pilot must pull the model single-handedly. 
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Re: Dayton Carrier yesterday, Saturday Oct 6, 2018
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2018, 06:59:54 AM »
Trade secret revealed.

Note the sliding battery rack which moves the CG aft along with the leadouts.  Also the (not so secret) jump buster.

1948 USAF marking may put his record in question.
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Re: Dayton Carrier yesterday, Saturday Oct 6, 2018
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2018, 09:08:46 AM »
Ben Ruggiero let me have some stick time with his Frank Scott designed Vought XF5U-1...
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Re: Dayton Carrier yesterday, Saturday Oct 6, 2018
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2018, 09:10:33 AM »
Clean approach...50 pointer...
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Re: Dayton Carrier yesterday, Saturday Oct 6, 2018
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2018, 03:51:51 PM »
Trade secret revealed.

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1948 USAF marking may put his record in question.

Why?   

"A scale model of a carrier aircraft of any nation, provided it displays the
national markings of the using nation, shall receive bonus points. ..."

Doesn't say "NAVY" markings.
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Re: Dayton Carrier yesterday, Saturday Oct 6, 2018
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2018, 04:35:49 PM »
Mike, thats typical Paul Smith humor. Thanks for the pictures. Nice landing Heywood. Like the "Good Old Days".
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Re: Dayton Carrier yesterday, Saturday Oct 6, 2018
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2018, 06:15:49 PM »
Ben Ruggiero let me have some stick time with his Frank Scott designed Vought XF5U-1...

OH Man --Now I have to get mine out and fix it up for next year.
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Re: Dayton Carrier yesterday, Saturday Oct 6, 2018
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2018, 06:40:11 AM »
Mike, that's typical Paul Smith humor.
Wayne

Correct.  My MO-1 has US markings on one side and French on the other. 
Still, Pete should have popped for some time-correct markings. 
Modern USAF wings on an MO-1?
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Re: Dayton Carrier yesterday, Saturday Oct 6, 2018
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2018, 09:46:39 AM »
Interesting point Paul. Without taking sides on this perhaps we should open the question here and have a non binding vote.  Here in my humble opinion is how that voting should occur.  PM me with a yes or no vote on Paul's opinion, and I will pass the voting on without any names. Or, we could just open the voting here with comments. Your choice guys.
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Re: Dayton Carrier yesterday, Saturday Oct 6, 2018
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2018, 01:24:29 PM »
This needs to stop here and now! This discussion has nothing to do with our contest. We had a great day and everyone went away feeling good about Navy Carrier. Please leave it at that!

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Re: Dayton Carrier yesterday, Saturday Oct 6, 2018
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2018, 01:30:34 PM »
Anyone else?
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Re: Dayton Carrier yesterday, Saturday Oct 6, 2018
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2018, 02:06:37 PM »
Interesting point Paul. Without taking sides on this perhaps we should open the question here and have a non binding vote.  Here in my humble opinion is how that voting should occur.  PM me with a yes or no vote on Paul's opinion, and I will pass the voting on without any names. Or, we could just open the voting here with comments. Your choice guys.
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Come on, I'm just pulling your chain.  Any markings will do. 
Somebody gave me some jive about the Irish markings on my 15 job so I added a Navy star to cover myself.
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Re: Dayton Carrier yesterday, Saturday Oct 6, 2018
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2018, 03:59:47 PM »
Gary Hull's Profile with Wayne Buran crewing...
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Re: Dayton Carrier yesterday, Saturday Oct 6, 2018
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2018, 04:25:26 PM »
Anyone else?
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OK, Let's just drop it, OK?
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Re: Dayton Carrier yesterday, Saturday Oct 6, 2018
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2018, 06:35:09 PM »
Ben Ruggiero with his OS Max III powered Nostalgia Profile Brodak (GS) Skyraider...
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Re: Dayton Carrier yesterday, Saturday Oct 6, 2018
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2018, 04:29:18 AM »
Good way to start. Keep on practicing.
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Re: Dayton Carrier yesterday, Saturday Oct 6, 2018
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2018, 07:59:00 AM »
I see that scores are already up on NCS Top 20.

There are a few new numbers & names from Dayton, thank you.

I posted a number for NWS 40, but not quite as high as I wanted.
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Re: Dayton Carrier yesterday, Saturday Oct 6, 2018
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2018, 10:42:54 AM »
I see that scores are already up on NCS Top 20.

There are a few new numbers & names from Dayton, thank you.

I posted a number for NWS 40, but not quite as high as I wanted.


So I would assume if all the reports are in that those listed are the only current Navy Carrier participants in the country. Ouch, thats really bad when you remove duplications. Talk about a dying event.
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Re: Dayton Carrier yesterday, Saturday Oct 6, 2018
« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2018, 07:15:44 PM »
Wayne, Not as bad as one might think. I have sold 200 Carrier kits we designed and built.  In that group mot that have contacted me really enjoyed having fun with them, but in just one or two cases has any of that 200 guys ever appeared in any "Top 20" listing.  Digging deeper I have discovered that most of these people don't want to compete, or don't want to have much to do with all the classes that the NCS offers. The four years that I held a "Postal" contest were well attended, and by in large the prizes went to those same folks. I have a limited time left, so I really don't want to get involved in PI$$ing contests with anyone, but for the umpteeth time I will again go an record saying SOMEBODY has to reinvent the wheel concerning Navy Carrier  Here we have a dozen or so events available and we are shrinking. In England and the Continent there are just two events and hey are growing in numbers with some really intriguing and innovating planes.
This is the very last time I will write about these concerns.

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Re: Dayton Carrier yesterday, Saturday Oct 6, 2018
« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2018, 11:31:33 AM »
I quit worrying about the top twenty when several years I was flying never got mentioned when only 10 or 15 people were recorded.   The ne I am enjoying now is not a world beater and will probably never helicopter round the circle.   It goes faster on high speed than on low speed.  Still getting used to the RC control system.  Yes, in my opinion there are too many carrier classes.   The British have simplified the deck set up and only two classes of carrier.   hey also have a couple of odd ball designs.    S?P
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Re: Dayton Carrier yesterday, Saturday Oct 6, 2018
« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2018, 01:17:02 PM »
     Did you get ahold of the CD to see if it had been called into the NCS? Yes, the EU carrier guys are having a great time with their carrier events (all 2 of them). The most fun is their BC (Basic Carrier) event which is like our AMA Profile class. Their carrier planes are very different than ours and are evolving at a fast pace with no end in sight. They live in a very different world than ours.
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Re: Dayton Carrier yesterday, Saturday Oct 6, 2018
« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2018, 05:34:31 PM »
The Dayton score are already up on NCS.  Bob Heywood is on it like a cat.

There are several new scores & a few new names based on this event.

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