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Title: Dallas Carrier Contest
Post by: David Russum on October 28, 2010, 03:57:30 PM
The Dallas Model Aircraft Association held a Carrier and Speed contest on Oct 23-24 2010.  Patrick Hempel has a post with full results on the Speed forum.  The past few years the Carrier contests were held on the same weekend as the Stunt and Racing contests, and the fliers have been too busy trying to fly 3 events (especially in the hot summer months) and carrier tended to get the short end of the stick.  Next year we will reshuffle the schedule to give the Carrier fliers a day of their own to fly, and will advertise the contest better to try and attract fliers from other districts.

Carrier results are:

   .15 Profile Carrier      Score
   ------------------   ------
   1st   Dale Gleson      80.2
   Att   Kelly Wilson      Att
   Att   Terry Kirby       Att

   Profile Carrier         Score
   ---------------     ------
   1st   Bill Bischoff     295.5
   2nd   Mike Greb      256.3
   3rd   Dave Ek         104.0
 
   Class I                  Score
   -------------        ------
   1st   Dave Ek         279.4
   2nd   Bill Bischoff    259.2
   3rd   Mike Greb       257.6

   Class II                 Score   
   -------------        -------
   1st   Dale Gleason   340.1
Title: Re: Dallas Carrier Contest
Post by: David Russum on October 28, 2010, 04:10:34 PM
More Pictures
Title: Re: Dallas Carrier Contest
Post by: eric conley on October 28, 2010, 05:59:28 PM
     Thank you for the post David. Its great to see some results and pictures from Texas. I see Bill flew his Zero (it looks great) and Terry, Dale, and Mike all looking good. It must have been a little breezy or something as the scores look a little low, course we are talking Texas. Thanks again, Eric
Title: Re: Dallas Carrier Contest
Post by: David Miller on October 28, 2010, 09:19:03 PM
Thank you for the post and pictures. Very interesting. Appreciated!!!
Title: Re: Dallas Carrier Contest
Post by: Wayne J. Buran on October 29, 2010, 04:21:54 AM
Thanks for the pictures. The Zero looks great.
Wayne
Title: Re: Dallas Carrier Contest
Post by: john e. holliday on October 30, 2010, 11:05:29 AM
Is Billy B. back again?  Sure have missed him all these years.  Guess I need to get off the duff and start flying again.  Thanks for the report and pictures. H^^
Title: Re: Dallas Carrier Contest
Post by: bill bischoff on November 16, 2010, 10:46:01 PM
I had to sign up for this "stunt" forum because I heard people were talking about me! I am indeed back, with a new airplane, too. The Zero I started on in 2007 as an excuse to try a new line slider design is finally done. I finished it the week before the contest, and got two test/adjustment flights and one practice contest flight. The first timed low speed was 4:49. I was rather pleased! At the contest I flew once in Class one to make sure everything was OK, and then two profile flights. My winning profile flight was a 21.1 /3:49. It was rather windy, and I am happy to say I think my new airplane flies better than the MO-1.  The high speed is a little less than what I am used to, but I am flying this plane on 10% nitro.  What? Better than an MO-1? 10% nitro? Yes, it is really me. The truth is that I was simply too lazy to do a glass and epoxy finish, so I just slapped some dope on it, thus the 10%. There is probably some more high speed to be had, but for only six flights total it's working great.

In fact, the success of this airplane has inspired me to start working on the next version, with an eye towards a construction article and perhaps a laser cut built up wing kit. It will be the type 32 Zero with the squared off wing tips, but otherwise it would be very similar to my new one. I am also in the designing stages of a 44" class 2 Zero 32. I had some 3 views enlarged to the appropriate size, and they are perfectly proportioned for a carrier model with no fudging required. I just can't decide between the front intake MVVS 61 out of my MO-1, or one of my Webra 61 rear intakes out of the engine box in the closet. The MVVS is faster and would make an easier installation, but the Webra still has a lot of "just because" appeal.

Well, I'm tired of typing now, so just let me say hello to everyone again, and if you want to know anything more about the Zero, just ask.

Bill Bischoff
Title: Re: Dallas Carrier Contest
Post by: Glenn (Gravitywell) Reach on November 17, 2010, 10:51:26 AM
Another question.  What is the fellow doing, looking thru that triangle?  I saw that in another pic and it just got me to wondering.  Thanks. H^^
Title: Re: Dallas Carrier Contest
Post by: don Burke on November 17, 2010, 11:07:27 AM
He's checking that the pitch angle doesn't exceed 60 degrees.  Though the way he's holding it, it looks like he's being pretty conservative.
Title: Re: Dallas Carrier Contest
Post by: Dick Byron on November 17, 2010, 06:26:45 PM
Bill,
    I am glad to see you back flying.

Your friend:

Dick
Title: Re: Dallas Carrier Contest
Post by: Joe Just on November 18, 2010, 02:42:22 PM
Bill, great to see you back! As always with something inovative.

Joe Just
Title: Re: Dallas Carrier Contest
Post by: dale gleason on November 19, 2010, 02:19:19 AM
It was quite windy, a good slow lap or two and then full survival mode, as shown by the low pitch angle of the planes.
Bill's new Zero design is just as inovative as his previous designs have been, the slider is not the Kelly Hite design, but somewhat similar, very clean aerodynamically.

Phil Dunlap is the Center Judge with the triangle, in addition to his being the Event Director. He is often found Racing in Quickie Rat, Sport Goodyear, and Goldberg. He has tremendous dedication to all facets of Control Line flying.
dale g :)
Title: Re: Dallas Carrier Contest
Post by: Wayne J. Buran on November 19, 2010, 06:35:30 AM
I had to sign up for this "stunt" forum because I heard people were talking about me! I am indeed back, with a new airplane, too. The Zero I started on in 2007 as an excuse to try a new line slider design is finally done. I finished it the week before the contest, and got two test/adjustment flights and one practice contest flight. The first timed low speed was 4:49. I was rather pleased! At the contest I flew once in Class one to make sure everything was OK, and then two profile flights. My winning profile flight was a 21.1 /3:49. It was rather windy, and I am happy to say I think my new airplane flies better than the MO-1.  The high speed is a little less than what I am used to, but I am flying this plane on 10% nitro.  What? Better than an MO-1? 10% nitro? Yes, it is really me. The truth is that I was simply too lazy to do a glass and epoxy finish, so I just slapped some dope on it, thus the 10%. There is probably some more high speed to be had, but for only six flights total it's working great.

In fact, the success of this airplane has inspired me to start working on the next version, with an eye towards a construction article and perhaps a laser cut built up wing kit. It will be the type 32 Zero with the squared off wing tips, but otherwise it would be very similar to my new one. I am also in the designing stages of a 44" class 2 Zero 32. I had some 3 views enlarged to the appropriate size, and they are perfectly proportioned for a carrier model with no fudging required. I just can't decide between the front intake MVVS 61 out of my MO-1, or one of my Webra 61 rear intakes out of the engine box in the closet. The MVVS is faster and would make an easier installation, but the Webra still has a lot of "just because" appeal.

Well, I'm tired of typing now, so just let me say hello to everyone again, and if you want to know anything more about the Zero, just ask.

Bill Bischoff
Bill more details on your Zero project would be great.
Thanks
Wayne

Title: Re: Dallas Carrier Contest
Post by: bill bischoff on November 19, 2010, 08:05:47 AM
Wayne, I will start a new topic for this.
Title: Re: Dallas Carrier Contest
Post by: Wayne J. Buran on November 19, 2010, 02:38:36 PM
Saw it first.
Thanks
Wayne