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Title: Class II ballet
Post by: Bob Heywood on October 18, 2009, 06:22:51 PM
Screamin' Mac -60-...

Glenview, 1962
Title: Re: Class II ballet
Post by: Wayne J. Buran on October 18, 2009, 06:49:24 PM
Wonderful, Dark Shark. You shouldnt be posting such sedicious history.
Thanks
Wayne
Title: Re: Class II ballet
Post by: Lee Thiel on October 18, 2009, 07:05:32 PM
Bob, hope you don't mind if I re-post your great picture. Took me to much effort to see it all, then couldn't see it all at one time.
Lee TGD
Title: Re: Class II ballet
Post by: Chris McMillin on October 20, 2009, 08:53:40 PM
Nice model, evocative scene, an action scenario one couldn't pose and make better. The nose high attitude of the model, wings level just breaking the deck puts you there!
Chris...
Title: Re: Class II ballet
Post by: Paul Smith on October 21, 2009, 07:00:16 PM
Those were the days when U.S. NAVY CARRIER EVENT was the real deal.

Four pounds total weight, 44" wingspan, and all the cubic inches you could get into it.   Not everybody could fly the event, but everybody respected it.

The ultimate was Ed Heiser's Tigercat with two ST 65's.

When planes like that blasted off, you looked for something solid to hide behind.  16 seconds of HIGH speed was a lot more exciting that five minutes of hovering.
Title: Re: Class II ballet
Post by: Trostle on October 21, 2009, 11:04:49 PM
Quote from: Paul Smith on October 21, 2009, 07:00:16 PM

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The ultimate was Ed Heiser's Tigercat with two ST 65's.

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What event or when were two "65's" allowed in Carrier?

Keith
Title: Re: Class II ballet
Post by: Wayne J. Buran on October 22, 2009, 04:22:39 AM
Quote from: Trostle on October 21, 2009, 11:04:49 PM
What event or when were two "65's" allowed in Carrier?

Keith

I am not sure but I believe that at one time Class 2 was called "Unlimited"
Wayne
Title: Re: Class II ballet
Post by: Paul Smith on October 22, 2009, 05:18:06 AM
Before Class I and Profile, there was just plain "US Navy Carrier Event" with the 4 pounds and 44" winspan being the only limitations.   My guess is sometime around 1965 or so when Class I began and the .65 limit on Class II hit The Rule Book.  

Note: The famous Randell Tigercat, with two 35's or 36's was also over the current .65 limit.

I think Profile "went rule book" in 1970.  It was a much better and more popular local event prior to that.
Title: Re: Class II ballet
Post by: Bob Heywood on October 22, 2009, 02:00:37 PM
Quote from: Paul Smith on October 22, 2009, 05:18:06 AM
Before Class I and Profile, there was just plain "US Navy Carrier Event" with the 4 pounds and 44" winspan being the only limitations.   My guess is sometime around 1965 or so when Class I began and the .65 limit on Class II hit The Rule Book.  

Note: The famous Randell Tigercat, with two 35's or 36's was also over the current .65 limit.

I think Profile "went rule book" in 1970.  It was a much better and more popular local event prior to that.

To quote the 1957-1958 AMA Official Model Aircraft Regulations ~

Rule 20.3 Aircraft Requirements.

"... There shall be no restrictions on engine type or size."

Cool!
Title: Re: Class II ballet
Post by: Wayne J. Buran on October 22, 2009, 02:16:51 PM
Good job Bob.
Wayne
Title: Re: Class II ballet
Post by: john e. holliday on October 24, 2009, 02:16:59 PM
In 64 when I started to fly carrier the limit was .65.  Meriwether flew a modified Anderson .65 in a cut down Berkely Gaurdian.  I was flying a Sterling Gaurdian with a Merco .49.  Don't remember a weight limit as in 70 my McCoy Gaurdian was pull tested to 118 pounds.  Yes, I did the pull test with my brother on the scales as the event director couldn't pull that much.  My brother had to set down to get traction.  I was in mucho better shape back then.

Now to the Randall Tigercat.  One engine was a .35 and the other was a .29 according to the plans I had at the time.  They quit when it became a rule that both engines had to be runing thru low speed.  DOC Holliday
Title: Re: Class II ballet
Post by: david smith on October 24, 2009, 06:41:30 PM
The plans I have show 2 Johnson 35's with the inboard tank at 4 oz. and the outboard at 3/4 oz.  The one thing I noticed is that there is just a 2 line bellcrank, no throttle control.