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Offline dankar

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Carrier engines
« on: September 24, 2011, 03:32:27 PM »
I was asked by friend to help him time a two day contest this weekend.  Good guy and was glad to help him out. Seen some cool stuff and looked close at most of them. Guys running US engines had them doing pretty fine. Guys with flame outs mid flight guess what?? All the flame outs were crap china made junk. To spend time to build and set up a carrier plane and then buy some cheap/ low quality china made vastly inferior hunk of metal is amazing. I know some say they are good. When it comes to show time have fun. Seen a fine running K&B .35. Nelson's were amazing. One guy had a aveage hi-speed run of 17.01 speed for seven laps. Almost five minutes on slow run.
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Re: Carrier engines
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2011, 06:54:06 PM »
Pictures? Where was the event?
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Re: Carrier engines
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2011, 08:46:05 PM »
Could it be that the people who run the inexpensive engines are often the ones who are just starting out and may lack the experience of people who can use a Nelson to its full potential? It may not always be the equipment's fault.

That being said, after 20 years in the retail hobby business, I will admit that some stuff on the market is crap!
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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2011, 09:35:29 PM »
Contest is in Tucson,Az. I don't have a camrea at this time. Engines that had problems were used by new Carrier flyers and some with more experience. The guys who had more experience did not use china made engines plain and simple. Why bother to put a low quality engine when engine is very important part of Carrier. My personel like is full body class 1 and class 2 full body. Profiles look wrong but I see why they use them.  I have two class 1 ships for Nostalgia and may build a class 2 ship also. This is one reason to help out this weekend to see who is active in the club. I know engines and wanted to see what is being used. I know for sure what not to use.
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Re: Carrier engines
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2011, 06:34:04 AM »
Well some of us find it real hard to justify a $300.00+ Nelson for an event that we may fly two or three times a year. My ThunderTiger and OS engines run just fine, not as fast as the Nelsons but they do work, I can get parts and afford to own more than one. The answers to making them work are right here in the Carrier section, all it takes is to spend a little time reading and following the advice of those that know what they are talking about.
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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2011, 06:58:16 AM »
I love OS engines and agree about cost of Nelson's. As for china , low quality not for me. Some do have better luck with them and thats fine.
Dan
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Re: Carrier engines
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2011, 07:10:22 AM »
I currently fly Virgil Wilbur's very old MO-1 in profile carrier with a OS-35FP, very slow by Nelson standard but I have no interest in buying a Nelson. I normally fly CL scale and only pull out the MO-1 for local contests now once a year.

I have tried other engines but always end up putting an OS glow engine on the model. I have 9 flyable models, 6 for CL scale (5 glow powered, 1 electric), 1 carrier with an OS-35FP, and 2 for sport flying (1 glow, 1 electric).

The Cub has a Thunder Tigre and I like that brand, it does not give me any problems
The rest of my fleet is powered by OS glow engines (OS FP series)

My FP engines start everytime and run great, maybe not a speed demon but I don't fly carrier to go fast.

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Offline john e. holliday

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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2011, 08:28:16 AM »
It doesn't matter who makes the engine or where they come from.  If you don't take time to set them up and practice they will not work.  I can't justify the more expensive engines the way I fly.   I am still using a Super Tigre .35 that is very reliable.   The K&B's were a head ache to me and failed at the most inoportune time, like the NATS with my son.  Great on practice circle and dud on the official circle. Really it takes time to get an engine of any make to work properly and practice. H^^
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« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2011, 02:33:59 PM »
Today they flew nostalgia. One Fox .35 craped out. One .60/OS Glodhead. ran good. One K&B .40R ran about the best of lot. One ST G 21 .35 ran but was a dog. All were flown by vetran Carrier folks. No china crap here. I understand setup is very important but to get there you don't need some inferior hunk of metal from china. The new modern carrier is hover craft to me. Big ugly sliders on wing and more hardware then a flying junk yard. All the Nostalgia ships were full body and were scales after WW2 warbird. Not some frankenstien profile hover craft. Modern why not just tether a Helicopter??  Navy has them.
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Offline Dennis Holler

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Re: Carrier engines
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2011, 05:07:54 AM »
I think my biggest failure in trying to get back into flying, is to 1) try to use my old  worn out engines, 2) buy more old worn out engines off the BAY, and 3) Use old worn out tanks....and all the time think that this one will work all right only to finally realize that old gunky tanks and needle valves ain't the ticket.  (When I say old, I mean old Mccoy's and Foxes etc...although I did graduate to buying old ST's lately  LL~ ).

I've also been guilty of the lack of time as well, so i would agree on all of John's points!  That said, until I can buy a Nelson or RoJett.65, which will be a while, I'll have to work with the old ST V.60's I have and maybe buy a couple of OS 40's as well.
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« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2011, 09:03:22 AM »
Many older engines were ring and also there are many old new engines. K&B .40R are easy to find and with Bowman ring/ bearings not bad. OS .40's some had rings also. I bought two HP .40RV from ebay and both were excellent. Plus at RC collecto a new ST .40R.  I would never use old tank for anything. Use what you want and best to you. I never seen a carb come losse till I watched some china special shake its carb both free. The carb barrel on another just fliped 180* and jammed backwards. Nice touch!!
Put both planes out of contension. Did you ever try pulling a OS carb off cold?? Its on there pretty tight. china don't care they just push anything out there. So again use what you think is best. I know that this form of models isn't most popular but they are neat. One guy had Navy Helldiver full body and looked great making perfect landing.
It had a OS .60 Goldhead Oldie engine.
Dan
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