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Offline Terry Bolin

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Skyray Carrier planes
« on: October 27, 2009, 08:51:58 AM »
I am also considering building a Skyray carrier plane for this next year. Can any of you guys post some pictures of your Skyray and what you did with the gear changes.  What motor did you use? Thanks!

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Re: Skyray Carrier planes
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2009, 02:49:30 PM »
Here are a couple pics of mine although I have to give the credit for building it to Mike Anderson(haha).  It has done very good this year in contests.  It had an OS 32 SX which would run it right at the speed limit but it now has an OS 35 AX which isnt quite as fast but serves its purpose just fine.  It is also probably one of my better flying planes in the wind too.  The gear is just a little bit bigger than 1/8 in wire but Im not sure what it is.  The only other change is the leadouts are back behind the stock ones for a little bit better stability on low speed.  I think it does around a 1.5 min low, a little less if it is windy.

Hope this helps!

David

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Re: Skyray Carrier planes
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2009, 03:29:17 PM »
Terry, looks like a good way to get started. keep trying.
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Re: Skyray Carrier planes
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2009, 03:35:53 PM »
David's landing gear is 5/32" - that is all I ever use for Carrier planes -

All of the following mods have been OK'd by the rules or by Mike Gretz at Sig (who are the official 'keeper of the Skyray rules').

Most people mount the bellcrank externally beneath the wing anymore and put an adjustable leadout guide at the inboard tip.  You want to sweep the lines as far as you can without impacting high speed too much.  There is a 75 mph speed limit so there is no point in going 80 mph - increase your line sweep and improve your slow speed.

You can actually go ahead and mount the bellcrank internally and still use an adjustable leadout guide, but you can't adjust it quite as far back when it is internal.

You are allowed to increase the elevator chord, but I find that it doesn't help much - the Skyray will almost certainly come out very nose-heavy.  If you are not flying too nose high, then that isn't too big a handicap.  But the more tail heavy you can get it, the easier it is to fly slowly.  When it is tail heavy enough, the stock elevator is adequate.  If you leave it on the nose-heavy side, the increased elevator might help a little.

Add at least 2 oz of tip weight.

STRENGTHEN THE FUSELAGE - Skyrays have an annoying habit of breaking the fuselage at the wing trailing edge, even on what looks to be a normal landing (I have had the fuselage break IN FLIGHT!).  I use 1/8 by 1/2 spruce top and bottom of the fuselage, full length - from the rear end of the motor mount stock, all the way to the tail.  Just trim 1/8 off the top and 1/8 off the bottom and glue the spruce on before you do anything else to assemble the fuselage.  Some people sheet both sides with 1/16 ply from the rear of the nose-doubler all the way to the tail.  You really don't have to worry much about weight and as I said, the more tail-heavy you can handle, the better it will fly anyway.

I find the lite-ply rib and false rib system to be very difficult to build without a warp - I use 3/32 balsa ribs and use a full rib at each position, no false ribs.

You can leave the wing tips off if you prefer - that is OK'd by Mike G. at Sig.  You can't change any other areas or moments (except the elevator, as noted above).

You may use an electric power system if you prefer - no limits.

Fox .36 RC engines are pretty easy to find and run just fine.  Just about any 'available' RC engine is useable, though you may give up a little high speed.  A 4 oz. slant type clunk tank will fit and is probably going to be plenty of fuel, at first.

In short - build a plane, bolt on an engine and go fly - it is more fun than waiting until you have 'better' equipment.


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Re: Skyray Carrier planes
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2009, 04:10:46 PM »
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STRENGTHEN THE FUSELAGE - Skyrays have an annoying habit of breaking the fuselage at the wing trailing edge, even on what looks to be a normal landing (I have had the fuselage break IN FLIGHT!)

I can vouch for that I saw it!

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Re: Skyray Carrier planes
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2009, 05:39:23 PM »
All good information. I now have two new questions then: Is there a motor cap on the Skyrays ? (25-35-40-46???) and is there a full size set of plans to build from since the plywood ribs are not the best way to go and I am also going to need to alter the Fus?

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Re: Skyray Carrier planes
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2009, 06:19:53 PM »
I meant to add that but I got busy (dang it - they keep making me do WORK while I'm at work) -

The engine limit is .40 and mufflers are allowed - you are limited to 10% fuel that should be contest supplied at a contest (10% nitro max) - Sig red 10% nitro, 1/2 Castor 1/2 Synth is what we usually supply but we are very close to the Sig plant.  But everyone should be aware of what will be supplied so they can set up engines in advance.

Also, don't forget you'll need to add some sort of tailhook.

As far as the ribs and wing goes - the plans in the kit are full size - you can use the plywood ribs as patterns for balsa ribs (there are only two different ribs - center ribs and 'not' center ribs).  Really, if you are careful, you probably will be all right with the lite-ply ribs and false ribs - they have building tabs on them.  I just personally hate lite-ply parts ... I even built one Skyray wing on a jig using the lite-ply and as soon as I pulled the jig rods, it warped.

You don't HAVE to improve the fuselage - just don't say I didn't warn you.   y1   :)
One other fuselage note - I have Skyray kits that came with Lite-ply nose doublers - needless to say, I highly recommend you make doublers from Aircraft grade ply if you have a kit with Lite-ply doublers.  Also, the doublers in the kit go back past the wing high point - don't cut them off any shorter or the nose will break off at the rear end of the doublers.





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