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Offline Dennis Holler

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British Mosquito on a carrier??
« on: July 31, 2011, 06:38:40 PM »
I was watching one of those WWII best airplanes...etc...I love the Mossie so I'll watch all I can.. but what caught my eye was a quick several second video of a Mossie landing on a carrier deck..  Presumably it was a small British carrier, but would this qualify the Mosquito as a carrier possible airplane?  The next time the show comes on it could be taped so that footage could be used as proof?  What else do you need?

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Re: British Mosquito on a carrier??
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2011, 08:09:40 PM »
I did find this about the plane.....
The rear fuselages were structurally modified with a special internal longeron and reinforced bulkheads designed to take the additional loads imposed by carrier landings: an additional bulkhead (No. 5a) was fitted.
Externally a "vee frame" arrestor hook was fitted. The "snap gear" which released the hook was operated by a Bowden cable from a lever mounted on the cockpit port side.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Mosquito_operational_history
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Re: British Mosquito on a carrier??
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2011, 08:35:33 PM »
According to The Encyclopedia of the World's Combat Aircraft, Chartwell Books, Inc, 1976, Iain Parsons, ed., there were "Sea Mosquito" versions with a number of changes (low-blown engines, oleo struts instead of rubber, the afore-mentioned arrestor hook).  Wikipedia mentions it, and all their authors are unpaid so you know it has to be true: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Mosquito#Torpedo-bomber_aircraft.
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Re: British Mosquito on a carrier??
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2011, 10:05:31 AM »
Both the Sea Mosquito and the later Sea Hornet are pretty well documented. There are photos on Google showing carrier landing approaches for each. Mosquito historical publications also cover the Sea versions. Check The Squadron Shop plastic model seller. You'll find everything you need.

I've seen a model of the Sea Hornet. It had a .29 and a .35. Interesting.
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Re: British Mosquito on a carrier??
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2011, 12:04:20 PM »
Both the Sea Mosquito and the later Sea Hornet are pretty well documented. I've seen a model of the Sea Hornet. It had a .29 and a .35. Interesting.
The Hornet / Sea Hornet missed WW2. But it is a beauty. Performance was good too. http://www.dhhornet50.net
There's one or two plans for R/C Hornet out there but I am not so sure they would be that useful for a Carrier C/L project.

A Google image search should reveal lots of photos and a couple of 3 views.
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Re: British Mosquito on a carrier??
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2011, 03:51:44 PM »
This is getting pretty interesting... I have the old guillows plans, but that one is 25" span.  It would be pretty easy to blow those up for a starting point I'd think.  It would be a really neat airplane for sure
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Re: British Mosquito on a carrier??
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2011, 05:17:58 PM »
I have a set of plans for the Hornet from Radio Control Modeller. It has a span of 45", clip off 1/2" off each wing and you would be legal for carrier. The plans call for a pair of .10's or .15's, that means we can power it correctly and put on a pair of .25's and make it really move.

http://www.rcmplans.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=1747

there are numerous plans for the Mosquito that could be reduced in size for carrier models. I would build the Hornet first since it has a smaller frontal area compared to the Mosquito.

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Re: British Mosquito on a carrier??
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2011, 05:49:46 PM »
If you are interested in the mosquito then you need to get a hold of Bill Caulkins.  I know he was building one a couple of years ago but I think it was going to come out too heavy and that's why he didn't finish it.  There are some pics of it on his website  clflyer.tripod.com.  I'm not sure if he had plans or not.  Bit it wouldn't hurt to ask. 

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Re: British Mosquito on a carrier??
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2011, 07:34:04 PM »
Thanks David,  I sent off an email to bill, we'll see what turns up!
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Re: British Mosquito on a carrier??
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2011, 09:22:20 PM »
The MOSQUITO was the FIRST Twin Engined plane Ever , to LAND on a Aircraft Carrier .
Captain Eric Brown the Pilot .Landed a few feet to the Left, so as to not knock a wing
off on the Island .

Will dig out ' the book ' and post more drivle . cant do a picture at the moment though .

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Re: British Mosquito on a carrier??
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2011, 11:01:01 PM »
matt,
Don't tell Douglas they think it was their T2D-1 in 1927 was the first

The first three T2D-1's were delivered to the torpedo bomber squadron VT-2 on 25 May 1927, being used for successful trials aboard the aircraft carrier Langley.

Swanborough, Gordon; Bowers, Peter M. (1976). United States Navy Aircraft since 1911 (Second edition ed.). London: Putnam. pp. 161–162. ISBN 0 370 10054 9

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Re: British Mosquito on a carrier??
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2011, 01:29:15 AM »
Bother.

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Re: British Mosquito on a carrier??
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2011, 10:17:46 AM »
As long as we keep learning something everyday, it must mean we are still alive and kicking. H^^ Stiff upper lip and all that stuff Matt. LL~ LL~
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Re: British Mosquito on a carrier??
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2011, 05:04:47 AM »
Have to get you to have a word to Stuart Howe , for me . de Havilland Mosquito An Illustrated History Volume one .P 116 ! Z@@ZZZ

Mosq. LR359, Lt Cdr E M Brown lands on HMS Indefagatible ,25th & 26th March 1944 , and another pic. This time takeing off.So it may have . S?P

Theres a story of a Israeli Spitfire Cruiseing round the Med. and spots an enourmous aircraft carrier , and thinks " why not " . :!

So he lands on and has a irate bloke come up and ask him what he thinks hes doeing , Quips , Sorry , I thought it ws one of ours  . LL~

Further irrelivancies , the First two Boeings built , ended up in N.Z. , as well as the first blloke to fly a powered aeroplane being there . S?P R%%%%


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Re: British Mosquito on a carrier??
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2011, 05:11:36 AM »
And , ive got some 3 views and stuff on the suckers . FM published a Hornet Profile Scale , 1980s , couple of .40s I think, got mag artical .
There was a  little pommy ' FROG ' kit for a Mos with two .10s, theres a Aeromodellor Scale One , 1950s , two ED 2.5cc diesels, .15/19 size plane .

Late Navy one is TR 33 , folding wings ( outboard of the engines  LL~)

Got a Oriental x mosquito profile , two Veco 19s . stroppy Aeroplane. Flies good .
Trying to figure scale F2B one . HB~> Not entirely suitable , scale planform . :X

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Re: British Mosquito on a carrier??
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2011, 06:34:29 AM »
Just saw 36" Frog profile Mosquite plan posted at:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=18949291&postcount=5312

(no parts templates)
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Re: British Mosquito on a carrier??
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2011, 08:33:10 PM »
Root and Nacelle rib there , and front view of the wing spar . Should be adequate .
look how far back the Max Thickness is at the nacelle . It must be super-sonic . #^

Are you allowed to loose the outer engine for the slow speed run in carrier . ?

FROG ( flies right off the ground ! ?  <=) did a Spitfire , Hurricane and Me 109 too . :##

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Re: British Mosquito on a carrier??
« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2011, 03:04:46 AM »
The Hurricane is in the previous post there: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1265873&page=355
I think there might be more FROG plans coming. That plans thread is a bit unwieldy but there's a PDF Index somewhere there.
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Re: British Mosquito on a carrier??
« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2011, 05:46:23 AM »
Lotsa neat stuff in that thread...I found Bill Netzband's (sp) Gaurdian in there among other things
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