Here's the NCS reply. At least we get a treasury report and find out that the membership has dwindled to less than 50 persons.
Joe

Doc, your not alone. One of my local flying buddies has the same problem.
Joe

Burt can only tabulate info he receives.  Doc and others are finding that some local ED's or NCS area reps are not doing their jobs.
Joe

Thanks Mike I will try to remember that.   But, I fly for fun now.

Mike, perhaps the word "Rep" was a poor choice.  The NCS has 8 district people that should be responsible for , among other things, the reporting of results their district to the NCS tabulator (Burt Brokow) ... 

That NCS has 8 'district people' appointed or elected is news to me, and I have been around since Ted first started the newsletter - in fact I was the Newsletter Editor for a couple of years between Leroy Cordes and Bill Bischoff, and I've never seen any mention of that position.  Of course, I've never been to the Membership Mtg, so maybe I would have been aware of that position had I had a chance to attend one.

However, even if this position still exists, it doesn't change the fact that THAT person would have no way of knowing the results of any particular contest unless he/she actually attends the contest.  Hell, they may not even be aware there is a CONTEST to report, given the size these so called districts must be. So to blame them for not reporting results to Burt, is the same as blaming Burt for not printing results from contests he didn't personally attend.  The responsibility for MAKING SURE that results get reported MUST LIE with the flyers who generate those results.  There simply isn't anyone else who has any stake in it who can be counted on to do it.

I'm not familiar with the position of NCS regional rep. The closest thing I have heard of is the CL Carrier Advisory Committee, which should have one member from each AMA district. This committee is separate from NCS, and exists to gather and distribute opinions on pending rules changes. It makes sense that these individuals would be NCS members, but that is not a requirement. Since CL now has separate Contest Boards for each different discipline, I'm not even sure that Advisory Committees are still used or needed.

I went to the back page of an older Hi-Lo Landings and I did find what, apparently, Ted & Joe are referring to - a box with some names and regions in it.  I never realized that these were any more than contact people.  Nevertheless, I still maintain that there is no possible way that these 8 people can be responsible for reporting results from their area.

But that still doesn't address the concerns brought up here, namely to build our membership back up.  I don't know if there is anything we CAN do, but perhaps we should be encouraging the CD's to have registration include a line for an email or snailmail address and if there are non-NCS members, give them a complementary year just for entering a contest.  Forward their names and addresses to Ted, and have NCS add them to the membership role, send them the newsletter and try to engage them - perhaps get them to join HERE even, and join in some of these conversations.  I don't know that this will accomplish much, but I think it would at least give the newbie a glimpse of what if available.

One other nit I'd pick is that there currently is no way to pay dues, other than sending a check to Ted.  I'd be much more liable to send dues if I could click a Paypal button. 

I agree with John: I am also on the list and was never asked to agree or told about responsibilities. The people on the list are supposed to send Ted the info about contests in their areas that Ted may not already have been informed of by the local event directors. Of course the best solution is to have the local guys inform Ted of their schedules as soon as the contest dates and events are set.
Pete

I'm not familiar with the position of NCS regional rep. The closest thing I have heard of is the CL Carrier Advisory Committee, which should have one member from each AMA district. This committee is separate from NCS, and exists to gather and distribute opinions on pending rules changes. It makes sense that these individuals would be NCS members, but that is not a requirement. Since CL now has separate Contest Boards for each different discipline, I'm not even sure that Advisory Committees are still used or needed.

They are no longer used and no longer needed. Thankfully!

Bill, I beg to differ (I think). When the last rules in carrier were added or changed this group had a lot to say in those dessicions. This took place between 1 and 2 years ago. Do you know something that I dont know? Eric

Eric, the format of the CL Contest Boards was changed many years ago. It used to be that every CL rule was debated and voted upon by the same few people, and many of them knew little about the events they did not participate in. The structure then was for the Contest Board chairman to name "advisory committees" that were supposed to have special knowledge and which were given some authority in the rules-making process.  The problem was that the CLCB was not obligated to 1) form the advisory committees, nor 2) follow their advice.

It became obvious that the CL community would be better served if the CL Contest Board was broken into a Contest Board for each major discipline. That way the rules for, say Carrier, would be debated and voted upon by carrier fliers, and those for, say Racing, would be by racing folks. No more do we have the stunt fliers setting the rules for the combat guys!  

All in all, it is a far better arrangement.

As to your comment: I really don't know who "this group" is. But I CAN assure you that if it was a carrier rule, only the carrier contest board voted on it!