Do you mean 427? 627 seems a bit high.

Do you have the high speed and low speed times? I am just curious what I need to try to do on both of them to try to beat him.

David

 Congrats to Burt, great job! Do we have any photos of the model?

Yes Scott that is the plane and it looks like that picture was taken this year at the North West Regional where it was first in AMA Profile and where Burt won grand champion in carrier. Eric

627 +  Really seems way too high.  the previous high score , also held by Burt, appears to be 390.2 for a first place rating in the NCS buliten. Perhaps the score was 427+? 
Joe

Do you mean 427? 627 seems a bit high.

Do you have the high speed and low speed times? I am just curious what I need to try to do on both of them to try to beat him.

David

I agree that 627 seems high -- even very high. 
Comparing that to the current posted AMA record in that class (391.5 Peter Mazur 07/12/01), 627.1 is 160% of the current record in Profile (321).
In fact 627.1 is 121% of the Class II record (517.9).

David, I was also interested to know what it would take to beat that score.  According to the NCS scoring program,-- to get 630 points, one could fly 120mph (15 sec.), then crawl at 3 mph for 10 minutes, and get a landing and the 10 point scale bonus.

Imo, I think reviewing the calculation of the score is justified.

Randy

David, you sound like you are on the right course (lining up the ducks) to increase your score. I went down this road back in the early 1990s when I was scoring pretty high scores but I just wasn't able to raise them any further. I was running a Webra heli 35 at the time and felt that I was doing OK in LS but my HS just wasn't what the leaders were running at. At that time I think it was the K&B engines on very high nitro that were getting the best HS. I was flying with a bunch of combat guys that were running Nelson combat engines at the time and thought that they had some potential so called Henry Nelson to order a combat engine and he talked me into getting the pylon engine with a different piston, sleeve, head, and crankshaft to bring it down to 36. So that was the rout I took. I found that the heavy case Nelson (as I called it) didn't like high nitro which was OK by me but it also didn't go quite as fast as I wanted it to go either. So I called Henry back and he told me I needed to run it with a quarter wave muffler that was around 7 inches in length which made it illegal in carrier.

So I got one of the mufflers and tried it and sure enough it upped the RPMs by 1000+ making my planes much faster, only catch was it was illegal in carrier. So I started pushing for a change in the rules so I could use the muffler and after around 3 years the rule was changed so I could use the muffler if I didn't use fuel that had over 10% nitro in it. This worked out perfect because the Nelsons pylon engines had been running 10% all along so it worked perfect. Another thing that showed up was the fact that the Nelson running in carrier was loafing along compared to what they had to put out in pylon so they lasted forever (my first engine is still one of the fastest around and has never required repairs) so instead of buying new engines regularly I used only one engine. Now, sense Burt started flying carrier he and I talk a lot about how to improve performance in carrier which to me is what competition is all about.  Eric

Back in 1969 the Class I record was 553 set by my father Marion broken a week later by Willman.
www.jitterbuzz.com/manreal/nats_69_06.jpg

Way to go Burt. Enjoyed flying with you at the Albuquerque contest. 

David and Joe,

...also Eric and Burt...

Right, I miscopied the score I posted in the orig post. Burt sent me a copy of his record app, which arrived shortly after that.

Glad it is corrected! The flight was great enough that it did not need an inflated, inaccurate memory for help.

I don't know if you saw the max angle gizmo we used at Tucson, or if it is widely known. Clear plastic disc freely pivoted at its center, weighted to hang with a slot at the max angle for sighting the mode. Simple, easy to use, and free from the  problem of trying to hold a drafting triangle properly leveled while observing the model.