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Title: weight box
Post by: Fred Quedenfeld jr on February 01, 2017, 05:05:17 PM
looking for picture / instructions for installing a tip weight box
thanks
Fred Q
Title: Re: weight box
Post by: Avaiojet on February 02, 2017, 08:51:51 AM
Fred,

This is all I have without digging my builds up, but I'm sure you will get other photos.

Charles

Title: Re: weight box
Post by: Jim Svitko on February 02, 2017, 09:31:27 AM
Regarding the tip weight box lid, I now use magnets instead of threaded fasteners to attach it. 
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Post by: Motorman on February 02, 2017, 11:43:42 AM
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Post by: Howard Rush on February 02, 2017, 12:44:54 PM
If you grind a point on the screw it will be easier to line up.

Good idea.  Thanks.
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Post by: Tim Wescott on February 02, 2017, 12:48:42 PM
Charles and Motorman have it covered.  Remember, there's no standard -- you just need something that'll hold weights so they won't rattle or fall off, and maybe that looks good.  Anything else is just personal expression.

I usually don't worry too much about the weight of the weight box, because I've never had to put ballast on the inboard wing.

Edit: Here's another way to do it, with the right sort of wingtip:

(http://stunthanger.com/smf/building-techniques/fancherized-twister-build/?action=dlattach;attach=111228;image)

(http://stunthanger.com/smf/building-techniques/fancherized-twister-build/?action=dlattach;attach=111230;image)
Title: Re: weight box
Post by: tom hampshire on February 02, 2017, 02:15:24 PM
I always had better luck by building in a permanent weight of about 3/4 of the weight you will ultimately want to carry.  This makes the weight box cover retain only 1/4 oz or so, so it is much easier to make it stay put.
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Post by: Serge_Krauss on February 02, 2017, 09:47:14 PM
I agree with all of the above. I wish I had photographed the making of the box itself, but from the first picture, you can see its construction. I just made its dimensions to fit 1/4"-oz pieces of lead fairly snugly. It is made of 1/8" or 3/32" plywood pieces, epoxied together. The tie-down bolt hole is centrally located by drilling at the intersection of the bottom- and top- piece diagonals. A 4-40 screw and blind nut plus washer are used. Then a piece of balsa is drilled to match the lid and sanded to the airfoil contour after installation in the wing. I use tape to separate the lid from any epoxy overflow when attaching the box to the last rib and spar. I do as Ty suggests to attain a surface for the silkspan (in my case) to adhere. These surrounding balsa pieces also center the lid, which sits atop the plywood box and has the same dimensions as the outer box itself. Although not required, I also afix to the inner lid a plywood piece that fits snugly inside the box sides. The weight just subtracts from the lead weight needed inside. After installation, I sand everything to the airfoil contour and in the case shown, include an extra stub rib to insure no sharp breaks to the airfoil contour. The lead weights themselves are centrally drilled and cushioned in place with a piece of foam rubber. I have experienced elongation of the holes in the weights from g-forces and a loose fit with the box sides. So far, nothing serious.

Edit: not pictured is a thin curved piece of balsa to maintain the airfoil in front of the box. The box doesn't reach the upper wing surface; so that is just your normal covering in that corresponding area.
Title: Re: weight box
Post by: Serge_Krauss on February 03, 2017, 09:06:53 AM
I didn't know how to edit the pictures without having to start over, so here are two more, showing the final result from top and bottom.