I plan on trying cloth hinges on flaps for the first time. I have done them on stab/elev, but never did it after putting on tissue or using Ultracoate before.
Could someone tell me the proceedure?
Do you put on the cloth hinges before or after applying tissue to the surfaces?
How is it done when using Ultracote?
I plan on using Ultracote on the wing and tissue on the stab/elev.

I plan on trying cloth hinges on flaps for the first time. I have done them on stab/elev, but never did it after putting on tissue or using Ultracoate before.
Could someone tell me the proceedure?
Do you put on the cloth hinges before or after applying tissue to the surfaces?
How is it done when using Ultracote?
I plan on using Ultracote on the wing and tissue on the stab/elev.

Hi Jerry,

I have never used cloth hinges under any iron on so I can't help you there.

I have used cloth hinges on many planes covered with silkspan or Polyspan, though!

Apply the hinges first, then cover over them.  I use one piece to cover the stab and elevators, and one piece to cover the wing panel and flaps.  Then I cut the silkspan at the hinge line and dope that down into the crack (hingeline) after the silkspan has dried..  Just be careful with the razor blade and don't cut the hinges!   After you have doped everything down to you liking, and you're ready for color, double up some 220 sandpaper and sand the crack with the control surfaces deflected to remove any fuzzies, etc.

Bill <><

OK, Now I understand the method when covering wing or stab/elev with tissue or silkspan.
Really can't see how it could be done with cloth hinges and film, especially with hinging full length of hinge line.
Guess for what I'm doing at the present I'll stick with Film and Kleet's on the flap.
Pehaps go back to using  silkspan or poly on wing of next plane.
Must have got lazy over the past few years since dicovering how well Ultracote works.
Thanks for the info.
Jerry

Unless you just want cloth hinges for the sake of having cloth hinges, why not use Over/Under Monokote (or Ultracoat) hinges? If you use the clear "'kote", they're practically invisible, give the same sealed hinge line, and are way less trouble to install, as you just put 'em on over the covering.
 

OK Ralph, see my reply #3, you must be the guy I heard it from...please explain the process in detail, for us "challenged" individuals...(Like, say, me)

--Ray

OK, it almost takes longer to describe than to do. These hinges are applied after covering with the film of your choice.

1) Cut two long strips of film covering, about 1/2" - 3/4" wide, depending on control surface thickness. For ½A's, 3/8" is wide enough.
2) Peel off the backing from both, and lay one strip adhesive-side up on a piece of glass (The adhesive won't stick to glass!)
3) Lay the other strip of film adhesive side down, with the desired amount of overlap - 1/4" is plenty; perhaps 1/16" or 3/32" for ½A
4) Set your Iron on the "adhere" setting, not on the higher "shrink" setting, and iron the two pieces of film together
5) Now cut the strips into "hinges" about 3/4" wide (1/2" for ½A's
6) Apply the hinges, with your iron on the "adhere" setting, over-and-under and side-by-side just like you used to do with cloth hinges. They should be very close to each other, without actually rubbing against each other. Don't pull them super-tight, just don't leave any slack. This will give you the greatest freedom of movement.

You can use Clear film, which won't cover up any designs on the surfaces, or use the same color as the surfaces and the hinges virtually disappear. I haven't tried it yet, but I imagine the use of Monokote Trim Solvent would obviate the need to heat-seal the hinges to the surfaces, and possibly result in an even neater, faster job! This would require the use of Monokote Trim Sheets; the kind with the sticky adhesive.

I have had exactly one Monokote hinge "failure". When the Cardinal crashed, the outboard wing broke completely off, and that broke all the hinges on the outboard flap. All the hinges on the inboard wing, and the stab-elevator were intact, and it was one impressive crash! I have a lot of faith in these hinges, even for large planes, as with increased wingspan comes more hinges!

One of the chief, and almost automatic, benefits of this system is a sealed hinge line, with no extra effort and no ongoing maintenance.