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Progress (Photo)
« Reply #50 on: October 24, 2006, 09:15:02 PM »
Progress is a little slower on this finish than in the past. I am looking for  quality. This shot shows the nose in Fiberglass. Fits are good!
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« Reply #51 on: October 24, 2006, 10:09:46 PM »
Looks very, very nice Bob.
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Re: Progress (Photo)
« Reply #52 on: October 25, 2006, 08:39:48 AM »
Is the fuse outline different from the previous version? It looks more scale to me, maybe I just didn't notice before.

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Re: Progress (Photo)
« Reply #53 on: October 25, 2006, 08:50:15 AM »
Robert, very scale looking. The judges should really like it. Ron. y1

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Re: Progress (Photo)
« Reply #54 on: October 25, 2006, 09:12:47 AM »
Is the fuse outline different from the previous version? It looks more scale to me, maybe I just didn't notice before.

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I think its the bubble with a pilot in it! x:
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Re: Progress (Photo)
« Reply #55 on: October 25, 2006, 09:56:56 AM »
Is the fuse outline different from the previous version? It looks more scale to me, maybe I just didn't notice before.

Lookin' good! y1

Thanks: I did increase the scale appearance by making the fuse a little different. Much more shapely. Rounder: if thats a word.
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Re: Progress (Photo)
« Reply #56 on: October 25, 2006, 10:04:06 AM »
How about adding the vents in the sides of the aft fuse? That would be a cool detail. Aluminum tube guns in the wing...the cool factor keeps going up. x:
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Re: Progress (Photo)
« Reply #57 on: October 25, 2006, 01:18:34 PM »
How about adding the vents in the sides of the aft fuse? That would be a cool detail. Aluminum tube guns in the wing...the cool factor keeps going up. x:

Yes the cool factor would be there but this is not scale. The reason for no vents is I do not want to compromise the structure in the aft fuselage. The guns would be cool except the would probably get bent up. So I will leave no chance of this an leave them off.

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I can stand in one spot and turn the plane over at will. Its great!
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Re: Progress (Photo)
« Reply #58 on: October 25, 2006, 04:24:59 PM »
Could we see some good pics of the stand and how it works, holds the airplane, etc.?
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10-25-06 (PHOTO'S) T-Bolt
« Reply #59 on: October 25, 2006, 05:11:36 PM »
I have gotten a little farther today as I stayed home to work on my new plane.
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Re: 10-25-06 (PHOTO'S) T-Bolt
« Reply #60 on: October 25, 2006, 08:40:58 PM »
Nice seat.
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Re: Progress (Photo)
« Reply #61 on: October 26, 2006, 10:34:44 AM »

EDIT: I do not know how I ever finished planes before getting this Byron Barker paint stand. It is a true joy to work with. I can also see how my finishes will come out better using this product. I will not have any more dings in the finish before even getting to the field for the first flight

I can stand in one spot and turn the plane over at will. Its great!
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Kinda looks like a minature engine stand. Is that how its made?
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Re: 10-25-06 (PHOTO'S) T-Bolt
« Reply #62 on: October 26, 2006, 10:38:51 AM »
Whats she weighing at this stage? What'd you say your target weight was? Looking good!
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Re: Progress (Photo)
« Reply #63 on: October 26, 2006, 11:27:21 AM »
It looks more like a bicycle work stand. Accualy I have used my for some planes.
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Re: 10-25-06 (PHOTO'S) T-Bolt
« Reply #64 on: October 26, 2006, 04:33:17 PM »
It weighs 31 oz right as it is pictured here. Target weight is just under 60. It will be tough.
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Re: 10-25-06 (PHOTO'S) T-Bolt
« Reply #65 on: October 26, 2006, 06:00:48 PM »
Sparky,
Assuming you could not see to go to work  ??? how did you manage to work on the airplane  ;D OK, thats all for me the pain medicine is starting to kick in. Everything is starting to strike me funny.  Very nice plane though.  ;)

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Re: 10-25-06 (PHOTO'S) T-Bolt
« Reply #66 on: October 26, 2006, 07:24:54 PM »
That plane looks great Sparky. I like that fat fuselage.
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Re: Cowl mounting (photos)
« Reply #67 on: October 27, 2006, 03:07:04 AM »
[quote author=Robert  Storick link=topic=2363.msg16272#msg16272  If I use it all it should be a spectacular finish. But you know me I wont! That is so I can come out at the same weight as number one T-Bolt. However I want it lighter so I am looking for a 8 oz finish. That will be a feet in its self as the airframe is so big but I am gonna try!]quote

How about a silver aluminum finish this time with invasion stripes on the bottom, instead of the gray finish? You probably could get a good effect with minimum color/panel lines and deep clear coating...
Just a suggestion, shoot me later!!
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Re: 10-25-06 (PHOTO'S) T-Bolt
« Reply #68 on: October 27, 2006, 04:19:16 AM »
It weighs 31 oz right as it is pictured here. Target weight is just under 60. It will be tough.

Beautiful model! Congratulations.
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Re: Sneak peak at the new T-Bolt
« Reply #69 on: October 27, 2006, 09:59:46 PM »
Here are a few shots of what I have been up to. The cowl on this one to two days. Jim Lynch gave me a guide at the last NATS on how and what they were looking for for the front row. Perfect fits and shape are in the cards for this bird. I was going to make a remote glow starter but it weighs 14 grams. Too much extra weight IMHO. But the fuel line is hidden in the cowl opening and the needle valve will not show either.Hidden mounting hardware. Its been a pain but I hope it will pay off.

Last shot is one of the Brazilians T-Bolts. I hope they used glue this year. At last years NATS I was almost hit with a flying engine on one occasion and on the other occasion I was almost his with a whole plane in the face.


With good glue. No filling.
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Re: T-Bolt Details condensed (photo's)
« Reply #70 on: October 27, 2006, 10:03:13 PM »
Lookin good!
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« Reply #71 on: October 28, 2006, 09:13:25 PM »
Not much to see but I am working on it.
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Re: T-Bolt Photo
« Reply #72 on: October 28, 2006, 11:17:55 PM »
Getting there and looking good Robert! Whats those "BOBOs" on the fuse under the veil? I didnt notice them on your previous post(s).... I like that"Chubby" look you've got this time!! n~
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Re: T-Bolt Photo
« Reply #73 on: October 29, 2006, 06:17:43 AM »
Whats those "BOBOs" on the fuse under the veil?

Of what Bo-Boo's do you speak of? If you mean the light colored spots,those are high spots that are being exposed after block sanding. I go to Walgreen's drug store and buy fingernail files by the dozen. They are about 1.25 wide and 9 inch's long of different grits. I use the to block sand the round shape in the fuse. If I have a low spot I lay another piece of CF vial down with clear dope then sand to shape. I feel the that vial is lighter than filler. After I get all the woodwork straight and filled with clear I will ad one coat of Zinc Striate primer (sprayed on) to the airframe and sand it all off. One coat of base color and then trim and clear.
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Re: T-Bolt Photo
« Reply #74 on: October 29, 2006, 08:00:03 AM »
Hi Robert,

I see you're going to spray on a coat of ZS.  What happened to the auto primer?  Is the zinc sterate going to come out lighter or do you feel it fills better?

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« Reply #75 on: October 29, 2006, 08:07:16 AM »
This is an experiment I will report the findings here. Randy Smith said ZS is the lightest filler so you know how I am about light. I am not afraid to try new things, light is where its at and I thought I would give it a try. I know what your thinking - but why on a plane that took so much work. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. Last time I check I wasn't crazy so Something new. **)
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Re: T-Bolt Photo
« Reply #76 on: October 29, 2006, 08:32:21 AM »
This is an experiment I will report the findings here. Randy Smith said ZS is the lightest filler so you know how I am about light. I am not afraid to try new things, light is where its at and I thought I would give it a try. I know what your thinking - but why on a plane that took so much work. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. Last time I check I wasn't crazy so Something new. **)

Hi Sparky,

I have used Randy's ZS many many times.  It IS light, sand without effort, and fills great.   It isn't as "convienient" as the spray can primer, but it's like I told you about using an airbrush to paint the whole plane!  Takes more time is all, but it WILL be lighter......

The plane will be gorgeous when you're done.  y1

I'm trying to finish up all the other stuff in the shop so that I can get to work on that Razorback!  All I got is a PA .61, but I will keep it light enough that the .61 will pull it fine.  ;D

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Re: T-Bolt Details condensed (photo's)
« Reply #77 on: October 29, 2006, 02:26:50 PM »
Robert:
I mind too, the security in fly, is primordial aspect for a good event.
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Re: T-Bolt Details condensed (photo's)
« Reply #78 on: October 29, 2006, 02:34:28 PM »
Spanish:

¿_ yo ser no seguro qué usted ser trying decir? _ seguridad ser importante. _ usted construir muy agradable plano y yo significar nada hacia su capacidad. _ yo ser apenas stating uno hecho sobre aeroplano coming aparte en NATS. _

Portuguese:

Eu não sou certo o que você está tentando dizer? A segurança é importante. Você constrói planos muito agradáveis e eu não signifiquei nada para sua abilidade. Eu era justo indicando um fato sobre os aviões que vêm distante no NATS.

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I am not sure what you are trying to say? Safety is important. You build very nice planes and I meant nothing toward your ability's. I was just stating a fact about airplanes coming apart at the NATS.
 
 
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Re: T-Bolt Details condensed (photo's)
« Reply #79 on: October 29, 2006, 03:24:46 PM »
Dear Robert:

It's OK!
I know about P-51 brazilian acidents in Muncie. I'm sure, will not occure in 2.007.
You is a exemplar craftmanship.
Your portuguese is fine!
Thanks for your observations.

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Eu sei sobre aqueles acidentes em Muncie. Estou certo que não ocorrerá mais em 2.007.
Você é um grande e exemplar construtor de modelos.
Seu português é excelente!
Obrigado por suas observações.

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Re: T-Bolt Details condensed (photo's)
« Reply #80 on: October 29, 2006, 04:22:47 PM »
Spanish:

¿_ yo ser no seguro qué usted ser trying decir? _ seguridad ser importante. _ usted construir muy agradable plano y yo significar nada hacia su capacidad. _ yo ser apenas stating uno hecho sobre aeroplano coming aparte en NATS. _

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Eu não sou certo o que você está tentando dizer? A segurança é importante. Você constrói planos muito agradáveis e eu não signifiquei nada para sua abilidade. Eu era justo indicando um fato sobre os aviões que vêm distante no NATS.

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I am not sure what you are trying to say? Safety is important. You build very nice planes and I meant nothing toward your ability's. I was just stating a fact about airplanes coming apart at the NATS.
 
 


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Painting progress (Photo's)
« Reply #81 on: November 01, 2006, 06:53:07 PM »
Here are a few shots of the progress. I am sanding more on this plane than the first two. I used ZS on the wings followed by my trusty auto primer,
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Re: Painting progress (Photo's)
« Reply #82 on: November 02, 2006, 10:32:22 AM »
What's ZS?
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« Reply #83 on: November 02, 2006, 01:56:23 PM »
zinc sterate
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Re: Painting progress (Photo's)
« Reply #84 on: November 02, 2006, 02:04:38 PM »
Uh, OK.....what's zinc sterate?  Some type of primer? ;D
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« Reply #85 on: November 02, 2006, 02:16:29 PM »
I thought zinc sterate was a metal primer.  Ive seen it used on auto parts and on aircraft to hold down corrosion. 

EDIT...*** had some brain lock...I'm thinking of zinc chromate.

What are the properties of zinc sterate and what does it do for balsa?

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« Reply #86 on: November 02, 2006, 02:30:17 PM »
Its like talcum powder
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Re: Painting progress (Photo's)
« Reply #87 on: November 02, 2006, 08:30:29 PM »
What's ZS?

He is actually using  AERO-1 filler  powder, which is more than ZS powder, although that is the main ingredient

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Re: Painting progress (Photo's)
« Reply #88 on: November 03, 2006, 08:01:56 AM »
OK guys, I've never heard of this stuff. Do you mix it in with your clear or what's the deal? How do you use it, how does it work?

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Re: Painting progress (Photo's)
« Reply #89 on: November 03, 2006, 09:31:57 AM »
I've been following your build threads for a while and like your relatively simple and light finishing process.  I just ordered some ZS as I wanted to give it a try and was wondering if you spray it on or brush it on over the polyspan.  Also, what grit do you use for sanding the primer off the polyspan?

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« Reply #90 on: November 03, 2006, 12:45:30 PM »
I've been following your build threads for a while and like your relatively simple and light finishing process.  I just ordered some ZS as I wanted to give it a try and was wondering if you spray it on or brush it on over the polyspan.  Also, what grit do you use for sanding the primer off the polyspan?

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Mix like the instructions say. Then thin 50/50 and spray. I use 320 then 400 before color.
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« Reply #91 on: November 03, 2006, 08:31:19 PM »
these 2 photos are where I am at now. First coat of silver Gray is on the fuse. Tomorrow I will attach the canopy and finish painting the whole model.
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Re: Painting progress (Photo's)
« Reply #92 on: November 04, 2006, 09:55:43 AM »
Robert,

Congratulations on having a cockpit, complete with a pilot!
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« Reply #93 on: November 04, 2006, 10:44:57 AM »
One that was in a hurry to get in the air and shoot down a German.  SH^
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Re: Painting progress (Photo's)
« Reply #94 on: November 04, 2006, 11:41:11 AM »
Who painted your pilot Bob?
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« Reply #95 on: November 04, 2006, 11:42:28 AM »
I did.
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« Reply #96 on: November 04, 2006, 12:20:46 PM »
Nice job.   :)
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Top,Bottom,cockpit (photo's)
« Reply #97 on: November 05, 2006, 01:49:58 PM »
In the pictures below you will see I did not paint the flaps. Well they warped so I need to make a new set. Progress is slow. Its turning out better than the last one and thats all that counts.
« Last Edit: November 06, 2006, 08:08:12 AM by Robert Storick »
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Re: Top,Bottom,cockpit (photo's)
« Reply #98 on: November 05, 2006, 02:28:55 PM »
Excellent, As usual I like it!!
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Re: Top,Bottom,cockpit (photo's)
« Reply #99 on: November 05, 2006, 02:42:11 PM »
Looks like a big plastic model with wooden flaps!
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