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Title: Stab construction
Post by: James Mills on November 26, 2006, 08:41:48 PM
I read a post recently where Brett  (I think) posted that he felt an airfoiled stab was an advantage.  If you choose this route can it be built as a built up/sheeted stab to save weight or is a foam stab a must to keep the airfoil?

Thanks,

James
Title: Re: Stab construction
Post by: Jim Thomerson on November 27, 2006, 02:35:28 PM
I build mostly flat stabs.  Usually a fake solid sheet tail for an OTS airplane.  I lay down a piece of quarter grain 1/32 and then build up the stab/ elevator outlines and a Warren truss (or what ever I feel like at the time) out of whatever thickness it takes to make the stab as thick as I want.  Then glue another sheet of 1/32 on top.  Weight it down between two pieces of 1/4 inch plate glass.  Cover with silk, silkspan, tissue, as appropriate.  Much stiffer than a solid stab of the same dimensions, and lighter (maybe).
Title: Re: Stab construction
Post by: Ward Van Duzer on November 29, 2006, 01:38:16 PM
One thing about a flat stab...You can get it in the fuselage at 0 degrees. Flat! Never can be sure with a curved (or angled) surface.
Title: Re: Stab construction
Post by: Ron King on November 29, 2006, 02:36:27 PM
I also build flat stabs. I learned how to do this from Les McDonald and I think folks like Paul Walker and Windy also build (or have built) stabs this way. If you build it right, it will be very light AND very stiff - one of Brett's major concerns.

I cannot say if there is any difference or advantage to either method. Brett's results speak for themselves, as do Les McDonald's, Paul's, Windy's et al.

I think it's easier to line up a flat stab than an airfoiled unit and think that is just as important as stiffness.

My two centavos.  ~>

Ron
Title: Re: Stab construction
Post by: Bill Little on November 29, 2006, 09:29:55 PM
Wow,  flat or airfoiled............ hmmm.........

The two best flying planes I have had had one of each!  Neither were foam cores, and both were extremely rigid.  Of couse one is the USA-1 and it IS airfoiled, but it is built on a core as Ty described, and the center section is flat where it goes on the fuselage.  The "solid CF strip" .007 thick can be used in a lot of places to lend rigidity to the structure with minimal weight gain.

Bill <><
Title: Re: Stab construction
Post by: Randy Powell on December 01, 2006, 08:20:50 PM
I build mostly airfoiled stabs. Aligning isn't too hard if the cutout in the fuse is straight and you use an incidence meter. I mostly build them because it's easier to make them very, very rigid and straight and because I imagine that the greater lifting surface it provides allows me to carry the CG further back, though I'm probably just imagining it.