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Title: Not every thing in CL is new.
Post by: Ty Marcucci on November 05, 2016, 07:17:33 PM
 H^^
Title: Re: Nothing new in CL
Post by: john e. holliday on November 05, 2016, 08:57:51 PM
I didn't find it there.  But what the small pic shows is it can be done.  Don't know if Staples can make it usable set of plans or not from the pic.  Already have several plan waiting be down loases to the store.
Title: Re: Nothing new in CL
Post by: phil c on November 06, 2016, 11:09:02 AM
Not much new under the sun.  Well thought out design.  I especially liked the wing rib/LE/TE construction.
Title: Re: Nothing new in CL
Post by: FLOYD CARTER on November 06, 2016, 01:07:08 PM
Nothing new?  Not unless you consider reliable and powerful engines, CA adhesives, epoxy, Polyspan, control hardware, optimum stunt designs, etc.

The "olde days" were fun, but success was more elusive.

Floyd
Title: Re: Nothing new in CL
Post by: Avaiojet on November 06, 2016, 01:50:39 PM


Ty, send me that large JPEG, See what I can do with it.
Title: Re: Nothing new in CL
Post by: Dan McEntee on November 06, 2016, 05:47:23 PM
Nothing new?  Not unless you consider reliable and powerful engines, CA adhesives, epoxy, Polyspan, control hardware, optimum stunt designs, etc.

The "olde days" were fun, but success was more elusive.

Floyd

   You know, though, that you can STILL do things exactly the way it was done in the "olde days" and still realize some success, depending on what your description of success is. To most, success is just getting started and airborne reliably for some simple fun. Back then everything, including the participants, was in it's infancy so to speak and everyone from the manufacturers on down was learning as they went. Everything should get better with time, but older technology should still work. Your ignition modules made the ignition engines much more fun to operate, but you have to admit that they can still be run on the original components. And some do that just because they "can."
    Type at you later,
    Dan McEntee
Title: Re: Nothing new in CL
Post by: Istvan Travnik on November 06, 2016, 06:05:12 PM
Dear Ty,
Pay a visit to my topic here:
http://stunthanger.com/smf/building-techniques/the-bluefoam-model-or-how-to-build-a-stunt-plane-without-a-bit-of-balsa/
I hope, you will change your opinion, in this question.
It is not forbidden to use some innovative ideas of you, however our beloved event (F2B) is far most conservative, all amongst of aircraft modeling.
(not to speak about SAM categories, that's another world)
And, do not think I am alone, or this is an unique plane: I re-activated my 1987 built model for 3 years (similar bluefoam technology), to help my friends fly again, after some 20 years break... :) 
Istvan
Title: Re: Nothing new in CL
Post by: Randy Cuberly on November 06, 2016, 07:46:44 PM
Wow, That's really interesting construction.  Nice to know it can be successfully done without balsa.  I assume the fuselage is covered with fiberglass and carbon and the wing with carbon veil!

Very innovative!

Looks great.

Randy Cuberly
Title: Re: Nothing new in CL
Post by: Fredvon4 on November 07, 2016, 02:44:47 PM
Hello Ty I am 14 years your junior and admit when I read the title Topic and the first post from you...I thought..."This old Phart is not paying attention"

But I persevered and read down a bit and see what you mean

That said I am extremely grateful for the forums and internet resources we have

I love my Nostalgia engines BUT ever more appreciate the info I learned about the OS FP 20 BBTU and good use of more modern engines or control systems...especially the ease of use of light materials...and wide range of glues...dopes....paints...coverings

I had no way in 1959~1972 to build with other than the crappy kit wood.   Or no way to know about better (or worse) fuel tanks, locations, fuels, wheels, propellers, of handles

Today finding the proper grain and density selection of wood is fairly easy. (I guess) this was a secret of the Real Modelers) back in the day

Not that the parts are better designed, but I find the accuracy of a good laser cutter for short or long kits far superior to what I grew up with

That, and I always learn stuff I never considered before on these forums... In 1960ish I thought the kit I bought was the exact same winning model...Mathis, Wooten, Scarinzi...etc was using ..... suprise... not so!

Title: Re: Nothing new in CL
Post by: FLOYD CARTER on November 12, 2016, 04:50:57 PM
Can't really complain about the "old days" because I was right there back in those "old days", doing my best to keep at least one airplane together.  Crashing is the only thing "Nothing New" with me.  Everything else is better.

Floyd (first kit model 1942.  First C/L flight 1945.  Still going)
Title: Re: Not every thing in CL is new.
Post by: Istvan Travnik on November 14, 2016, 05:38:47 PM
Dear Ty,
I am really sad.
A good, provocative title of a topic draws many more comrades' attention.
The original worked so...
Istvan
Title: Re: Not every thing in CL is new.
Post by: RknRusty on November 14, 2016, 05:47:34 PM
Not every thing in CL is new.
Please don't tell my Mom, she thinks I invented all this stuff Lol. She's so proud.
Rusty
Title: Re: Not every thing in CL is new.
Post by: Avaiojet on November 14, 2016, 06:42:32 PM
Ty,

Here ya go.