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Title: Low cost fuel proof spray paint
Post by: dynasoar1948 on March 02, 2006, 10:37:12 PM
Hi All,
This is my first posting at the Stunt Hangar- I'm visiting from the SPEED FORUM.

My question involves use of low cost commonly available spray can paint as a model finish.  Now that nitromethane content is down to 10%, is it true that there are paints(possibly water based poyyurethane) that are fully fuel proof?

Inquiring minds want to know-

Thanks, Will Stewart
Title: Re: Low cost fuel proof spray paint
Post by: dynasoar1948 on March 07, 2006, 11:17:20 AM
I'ts quiet out there....  any paint suggestions??

Will
Title: Re: Low cost fuel proof spray paint
Post by: RandySmith on March 07, 2006, 11:21:29 AM
the answer  is  NO  they are  not  fuel proof.
The only real fuel proof paints  even  for  10% nitro  are  2  part  paints

I am talking about fuel proof not  hot  exhaust oil  proof

Randy
Title: Re: Low cost fuel proof spray paint
Post by: Paul Taylor on March 07, 2006, 12:21:35 PM
Hi All,
This is my first posting at the Stunt Hangar- I'm visiting from the SPEED FORUM.

My question involves use of low cost commonly available spray can paint as a model finish.  Now that nitromethane content is down to 10%, is it true that there are paints(possibly water based poyyurethane) that are fully fuel proof?

Inquiring minds want to know-

Thanks, Will Stewart


I am not sure if this is what you are looking for?
http://www.rustoleum.com/product.asp?frm_product_id=18&SBL=1

This is what I use to paint most of my control line planes. ( If I don't cover them all in monokote) :P

You can get it a Wally World aka Wal-Mart.
Title: Re: Low cost fuel proof spray paint
Post by: Russell Shaffer on March 07, 2006, 07:16:41 PM
I have had good luck, many years ago, with oil based polyurethane.  I don't know if it would qualify as "hot fuel proof" as Pactra used to say, but it held up as long as my aircraft, for what that is worth.  Russell
Title: Re: Low cost fuel proof spray paint
Post by: john e. holliday on March 08, 2006, 07:32:15 AM
In my opinion, no paint is completely fuel proof to raw fuel.  The methenol and nitro is what hurts.   Now the residue that comes out of the exhaust should not hurt a good poly-urethane clear.  I do finish most planes with a 2 part automotive which requires a great paint mask and air moving the spray away from you.   Later,  DOC Holliday
Title: Re: Low cost fuel proof spray paint
Post by: minnesotamodeler on March 14, 2006, 11:01:41 AM
Any Rustoleum color except the metallics, and clear, are sufficiently fuelproof (OK, exhaust-proof, who soaks their planes in raw fuel anyway?) for our purposes.  I have planes several years old painted with Rustoleum, just about flown to death, no softening yet.  Good enough for me.

--Ray
Title: Re: Low cost fuel proof spray paint
Post by: sadams714441 on March 15, 2006, 12:17:41 PM
what do you put down under the paint on raw wood before using this paint?
Title: Re: Low cost fuel proof spray paint
Post by: minnesotamodeler on March 20, 2006, 11:18:28 AM
I don't know about others,  I use Rustoleum flat primer on the bare wood, usually 2-3 light coats, sanding between, then a couple of light coats of color, that's it.  DO NOT try Rustoleum clear for a top coat--it doesn't even pretend to be fuel proof; likewise the metallics.  Too bad 'cause they sure are pretty.

--Ray
Title: Re: Low cost fuel proof spray paint
Post by: Bill Heher on April 03, 2006, 08:50:26 PM
I have had good luck using the cheap brand at Home Depot. I think it is called Americas best or something like that- but it is made by rustoleum.  look at the small print on the can down near the bootom- If it say manufactured by  R O C, that mean Rust-Oleum Corp.

It's about 2 bucks cheaper a can, flows out pretty good if you warm it in hot water and shake the bejeezers out of it. I use the same brand sandable primer underneath, sanding all of the 1st  2 or 3 coats off, then lay down a good coat and sand with 200- 400.  A couple coats of color on top and let it dry for a week. I use Powermaster GMA blend 10% - and as long as I wipe the plane down after flying i have not seen any damage.

Of course my planes don't get a lot of flight time, mostly they hang in the garage and wait for me to come home- but the paint is still good.
Title: Re: Low cost fuel proof spray paint
Post by: Ironbomb on April 07, 2006, 11:17:16 PM
I dont know why I didnt mention this before, but I have used epoxy paint for appliances to good effect in the past. I first painted a muffler black with this appliance paint, and the paint is still intact. I put some 25% nitro fuel on it after it ahd dried, and the paint did not even soften.

The down side is that it is heavy, and I have only found three colors: black, white and biege.

The good thing is that it only takes a minimum number of coats to cover.

I would not use this on a contest plane, but for a practice plane or a kids trainer, it should be great.

So if you think black, white or biege is a color you want to use, try it, oyu might like it.



Greg



Title: Re: Low cost fuel proof spray paint
Post by: Dyehard on April 11, 2006, 08:37:48 AM
I wonder how well Rustoleum will hold up to high nitro fuel. I have been using 30% heli fuel in my TD .051. I have a new plane ready to cover and paint and I would like to give Rustoleum a try, but would hate to have the paint start coming off the first time I wipe the plane off after a flignt.

Allen Dye
Title: Re: Low cost fuel proof spray paint
Post by: Tom Perry on April 11, 2006, 10:38:51 AM
Probably the safest bet would be to finish a scrap let it completely dry and do an overnight dunk test in the fuel you plan to use.

I understand it can take some time to completely cure.