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Building Tips and technical articles. => Building techniques => Topic started by: FLOYD CARTER on March 27, 2014, 10:34:21 AM
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Are there any other sources for line adjust clips, besides those "kitty" things? Looking for an assortment.
Floyd
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Make your own assortment using the fixture from Jim Lee. Works great.
Keith
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"kitty thing" ?
If I wanted to make an assortment of homemade clips I would simply drill a hole in each side of my bench vice and insert steel pegs or drill and tap for bolts. The same principle as the bolt device but not another thing to store.
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"kitty thing" ?
If I wanted to make an assortment of homemade clips I would simply drill a hole in each side of my bench vice and insert steel pegs or drill and tap for bolts. The same principle as the bolt device but not another thing to store.
Depending on the size of the desired "assortment, that could amount to a lot of holes or taps or whatever in 1/16" increments to get the same results as the simple fixture that is readily available. The fixture stores easily in any tool box. To each, his own.
Keith
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Depending on the size of the desired "assortment, that could amount to a lot of holes or taps or whatever in 1/16" increments to get the same results as the simple fixture that is readily available. The fixture stores easily in any tool box. To each, his own.
I think Paul means one hole in the fixed jaw and one in the movable one.
I keep one of those fixtures in my flight kit with a half a dozen wires cut to length, in case I need to add to my collection at the field.
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Are there any other sources for line adjust clips, besides those "kitty" things? Looking for an assortment.
Floyd
I seem to recall this same question being posted previously by Floyd. Maybe he forgot?
My reply then and now is that I'd bet that somebody in the Eugene Prop Spinners probably has one of the Jim Lee/ Derek Moran clip benders and would be willing to churn out a batch of clips for Floyd if he'd buy the wire from McMater-Carr. Stainless steel, .055", if I remember correctly. NOT sure what type Stainless it is, however, and McMaster-Carr has many options. I got mine from Jim Lee with the bender.
When I got my JL/DM bender, I went crazy making clips up to about 3/4" longer than the stock Sullivan/Brodak clips. This is NOT needed. I'd suggest making them no more than 5/16" longer than stock, because it just isn't that hard to make your lines within 1/8" of being equal length. The other three clips should all be standard Sullivan or Brodak clips of the same type. I leave one clip on my airplane, one on the airplane end of the line set, and hook the lines to the plane and roll them out, then attach the handle, which has both clips left on it. By pulling on one line, I can tell which line is "up", and attach it to the top clip on the handle. Easy-peasy, & very difficult to hook up the lines backwards (like some manage). S?P Steve
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Stainless steel, .055", if I remember correctly. NOT sure what type Stainless it is, however, and McMaster-Carr has many options. I got mine from Jim Lee with the bender.
I've been using .039" (1mm) music wire. Individual clips pull test to over 50lb (my courage fails at 50lb, not the clip).
When I got my JL/DM bender, I went crazy making clips up to about 3/4" longer than the stock Sullivan/Brodak clips. This is NOT needed.
I have one plane that needs a really long clip, but that's because it came to me with uneven leadouts which I correct with the extra-long clip. Otherwise -- yup.
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"I have one plane that needs a really long clip, but that's because it came to me with uneven leadouts which I correct with the extra-long clip."
Tim...The solution appears to be to NOT use your tachometer when readying that particular plane for launch. LL~ Steve
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"I have one plane that needs a really long clip, but that's because it came to me with uneven leadouts which I correct with the extra-long clip."
Tim...The solution appears to be to NOT use your tachometer when readying that particular plane for launch. LL~ Steve
It was the muffler that fell apart, Steve, not the tach.
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"kitty thing" ?
What he refers to are Randy's "Hello Kitty" clips, a phrase which I coined right on this very board. I called them that because they came in a ziplock bag with a disembodied head of a Japanese "Hello Kitty" printed on it.
The clips themselves are outstanding, the best design and most innovative but of hardware I have seen in many years. They operate mostly like the Luxon slide clips but without any of the fatal flaws.
Brett
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It was the muffler that fell apart, Steve, not the tach.
Yes, but if you didn't use the tach, you would soon not have to worry about either the leadout lengths nor the muffler falling apart! LL~ Steve
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My clip maker came from Carl Shoup before Jim Lee made his available. Still use it to make clips.
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I suppose I'll buy the tool. It is $25. The "kitty" clips are $35 for an assortment. Really a shame that someone else with the tool doesn't make and sell a few.
Floyd