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Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« on: December 05, 2014, 04:31:19 PM »
Although flying isn't on the menu till my shoulder gets better I can build and when I saw this kit I couldn't resist. It's laser cut and ready for the Brodak wing jig which I happen to have. First off I built a work table which will do double duty between this build and my N scale trains. It is 4' X 2' and made from 1" X 4" X 8' pine boards from Menards. Including the ends there are 5 braces from front to back so there won't be any sag by the 1/2" hardboard,drywall and topped with glass.
 
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Re: Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2014, 04:43:19 PM »
I have both wing panels built and just about ready to join. According to the directions you put half of the jig rods (5/16" OD ) in each panel and join... NO dihedral. So far no big problems although rib 12 is about 1/16" short of the leading edge, this is on both panels so I'll send John a note. Not a problem I just filled with scrap. BTW my dog Bear is supervising !! LL~
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Re: Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2014, 06:38:42 PM »
Way to go Lee. I am glad to see you at it.
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Re: Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2014, 09:54:13 AM »
Looking good.   I myself built a two piece wing once and then joined it together.   Never again even now we have wing jigs I may try again.   I see you are working your helper too hard also.
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Re: Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2014, 02:18:37 PM »
Lee,

Nice beginning! Great choice.

Ya gotta love them Warbirds.

You have some good company also.

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Re: Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2014, 10:53:50 AM »
The wing panels joined up just like there suppose to, nice and straight. Next is the wing gear blocks then some sheeting. Oh Doc
not so loud about over working my dog..the lib's will have the ASPCA after me... LL~ LL~
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Re: Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2014, 06:22:57 PM »

 This build is a nice surprise Lee, I thought you had pretty much hung up the handle for good. Glad to see you back at it! y1

 Staying tuned... ;D
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Re: Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2014, 09:35:08 AM »
Well when I'm in the shop I have three keeping me under control,  Sandy the demented poodle,  Teddy the tough guy tea cup Chihuahua and Prissy my legal Mexican Chihuahua.   That wing is looking good.   I hope you can find relief for that shoulder also.   
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Re: Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2014, 11:31:02 AM »
Wayne, Flying is still not going to happen maybe for another year or so but I enjoy building more. Sooo I just couldn't resist. Doc ya gotta love the companion's in the shop !!!
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Re: Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2014, 06:54:09 PM »

 Does sanding work as physical therapy for the shoulder? ;D
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Re: Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2014, 04:29:53 PM »
I installed the torsion blocks on the landing gear blocks and installed in the wing and sheeted the bottom leading edge. The directions said the L.G. blocks would be even or slightly above the sheeting, but that isn't the case as they are about 1/8" below. No problem, I cut some 1/4" balsa to fit and sanded smooth, now I'll harden with some old c/a and screw them into the L.G. blocks to hold the landing gear in place.
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Re: Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2014, 04:13:05 PM »
Landing gear block covers finished. I used a piece of 7/32" Aluminium tube sharpened on the end to cut the holes for the gear opening. This makes a lot smoother hole than a drill bit.
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Re: Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2014, 06:46:06 PM »
Just saw this thread.  Looking good Lee.  BTW, Lee is a good builder.  I've seen his work!
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Re: Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2014, 03:35:23 PM »
Thanks Crist, we've been spoiled here in the 50's for 3 day's !!
Installed the B/C mount per plans and 3" B/C along with adj. lead out guide. I added extra bracing to the bottom of the B/C mount, instructions showed about half as many but since I'm not concerned with the extra weight I went with more. I received my Hawker Hurricane book with all of the actual paint schemes used. http://www.guidelinepublications.co.uk/index.php?..
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Re: Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2014, 02:13:14 PM »
Looks good Lester.

I just received mine.  The kit looks really good. A bargin at $109 IMO.  Think I'll turn mine into a Veco version.  Move R13 over a 1.25" for 3/4" asymmetry, and do the same to the flaps.  Also, take some of the "hump" out of the back.

Just a heads up, the top nose block in my kit is an 1/8" too small height wise when laid on the plans.  Don't know if the plans are drawn incorrectly, or  the block too small. Will have to wait until I get F3 glued in to know for sure.   Shouldn't be that big of a problem. Will have to glue some 1/8" shims to where it makes contact with the fuse.  
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Re: Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2014, 05:09:39 PM »
Gonzo, just a heads up..the trailing edge sheeting in my kit was shown on the parts list as 2pcs of 1/16" X 1/2" by 25" balsa and that is what was supplied. It should be 4pcs. 1/16" X 1 1/2" X 25" balsa. So you'll need to supply that, I told John about it so maybe your kit was revised. Also with reducing the inboard wing size your leadout wire should be plenty, mine at the shown size of the wing was to short for my taste.  Good Luck

Sometimes the plans are off a little bit, they used to put a disclaimer in the instruction book.
I'm also going to add the air scoop on the bottom of the fuselage, don't know why there isn't one.
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Re: Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2014, 08:43:52 PM »
Top side of the wing is done, now to remove the flaps and flip over and finish up the bottom. I can tell I'm a little rusty on this build some fits weren't as good as I wanted and had to be replaced but I'm catching on.
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Re: Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2014, 08:56:12 PM »
Maybe the "rust" is from the beer on the building table?   LL~
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Re: Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2014, 07:58:16 AM »
Well Crist I see moving to Texas hasn't improved your eye sight any !! LL~ LL~ LL~ That's Hy-Vee diet cream soda !! #^ #^ #^
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Re: Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2014, 09:26:31 AM »
Well Crist I see moving to Texas hasn't improved your eye sight any !! LL~ LL~ LL~ That's Hy-Vee diet cream soda !! #^ #^ #^

LOL!  I guess then when I say it's looking good, that can mean anything! 

Take care, Lee.
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Re: Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2014, 09:36:56 AM »

 Looks great Lee. I'm curious, are the carved L/E wing tip blocks per the kit or are they your own upgrade?
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Re: Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2014, 11:28:13 AM »
Wayne, that was the way the kit does it. I was tempted to carve both wing tips but changed my mind, am trying to stick to the kit as much as possible.

Hey Crist I know the eye sight thing is just old age, I'm going through the same thing. Also since you left our winter has been pretty decent  S?P to bad you didn't retire a year earlier  LL~ LL~ LL~     You and Jan have a Happy and safe new year.
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Re: Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2014, 06:14:00 PM »
Wayne, that was the way the kit does it. I was tempted to carve both wing tips but changed my mind, am trying to stick to the kit as much as possible.

Hey Crist I know the eye sight thing is just old age, I'm going through the same thing. Also since you left our winter has been pretty decent  S?P to bad you didn't retire a year earlier  LL~ LL~ LL~     You and Jan have a Happy and safe new year.

Thanks Lee, you and Helga the same.
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Re: Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2014, 07:42:23 AM »
Well so much for a straight wing now I have a twist on each end going up  ??? ??? ??? gotta try to figure this one out. HB~> HB~>
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Re: Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« Reply #24 on: December 30, 2014, 12:28:14 PM »
Well so much for a straight wing now I have a twist on each end going up  ??? ??? ??? gotta try to figure this one out. HB~> HB~>

Hi Lee,

My son Aaron (he's 39yo) built a Brodak Thunderbird I kit.  He did it straight by the book and the main portion of the wing was dead straight, but when he added the tip sections, the outboard wing warped *up*.  Not too bad upright but a killer inverted.  Now we have to get the warp out.  Good luck with yours!

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Re: Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2014, 04:43:26 PM »
Lee this looks really good.  Nice build.

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Re: Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« Reply #26 on: December 31, 2014, 12:43:27 PM »
Thanks mike. Bill: I think when I joined the 2 wing halves is when the twist developed. I just ordered 2 SS,303,5/16" dia X 6' rods from Grainger. There 9.09 each and should eliminate future problems, this way I can build the wing in one solid piece.
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Re: Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« Reply #27 on: December 31, 2014, 06:03:08 PM »
Leester, don't feel lonesome,  I am putting the covering on my latest as well as dope.  I am now trying to get the panels warped back straight.
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Re: Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« Reply #28 on: December 31, 2014, 07:00:03 PM »
Thanks mike. Bill: I think when I joined the 2 wing halves is when the twist developed. I just ordered 2 SS,303,5/16" dia X 6' rods from Grainger. There 9.09 each and should eliminate future problems, this way I can build the wing in one solid piece.

Hi Lee,

While joining two halves can cause no problems, once in a while...........  I did the Windy thing and got two 3/8" X 6' steel rods.  They work VERY well.  I also got (4)  3/8" X 36" alum. match arrow shafts which I really like.  They are very stiff and u can sight them while they are set up.  I use two pieces of sleeve the ID of the shafts to join them.  I do have to accurately punch (or tell the laser cutter to) the alignment holes.Most of the time i make a jig to line up on the C/L and set even with the TE.  All pretty easy.  Good luck with the Hurricane, I have an Aero kit of that model and want to build it one day.

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Re: Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2015, 07:30:30 PM »
Lee,
You still there?
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Re: Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« Reply #30 on: January 19, 2015, 03:01:08 PM »
Hey Crist, Yep. !! Ben busy with my oldest son helping him get his life back in order after a 14 month brain fart !!  Good news he got his job back !!! Now to make sure he keeps his nose clean and remembers not to repeat mistakes !!! Then I can try to straighten out a wing !!
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Re: Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« Reply #31 on: January 19, 2015, 05:48:05 PM »
Glad to see he's straightened out and now the wing.......

Stay warm.
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Re: Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« Reply #32 on: January 29, 2015, 05:30:56 PM »
Helga must have taken another hike.





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Re: Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« Reply #33 on: January 29, 2015, 05:46:11 PM »
I'm hoping she forgets the way back   VD~ VD~
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Re: Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« Reply #34 on: August 18, 2015, 03:21:32 PM »
Any progress on the build?
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Re: Brodak Palmer Hurricane build
« Reply #35 on: August 19, 2015, 09:45:49 AM »
How can anyone build a Hurricane without dihedral?   Straight wings look "droopy".
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