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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #50 on: March 01, 2023, 07:30:58 PM »

 Looking really good! Nice work on the cowl detail too, looks like it should.  y1
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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #51 on: March 02, 2023, 06:37:03 AM »
thanks Crist and Warbird !
i am very pleased with weight and overall look so far, hope turns out a good stunt model
hopefully will be ready on primer by the end of this month if rain give a break

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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #52 on: March 02, 2023, 06:08:08 PM »

 Being from Kaz I'd anticipate it being better than good. Decide on a paint scheme yet?
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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #53 on: March 03, 2023, 05:49:15 AM »
Being from Kaz I'd anticipate it being better than good. Decide on a paint scheme yet?
i bet ti will! based on Blue max platform....so...
the painting will be a long time fave, will do some ink lines and battle wear

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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #54 on: March 03, 2023, 07:03:37 PM »
i bet ti will! based on Blue max platform....so...
the painting will be a long time fave, will do some ink lines and battle wear

 Awesome! Hoping that "battle wear" means adding exhaust residue, gun residue, general weathering etc.  y1
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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #55 on: March 03, 2023, 09:07:52 PM »

 Just in case, here's some help with the mouth detail...


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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #57 on: March 03, 2023, 09:29:18 PM »
 A great detail reference for weathering the belly...  S?P ;D
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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #58 on: March 06, 2023, 09:02:10 PM »
Seems the Red Baron flew them too .  S?P







And the orange Baron ,



The Yellow Baron ,



A red & yellow Baron ? Dont mind the Wing Tips !



AND SOMEWHAT TRADITIONAL .


SORRY ABOUT THAT , Chief . Theres even a natural metal silver prototype , if youre not keen on BLUE .  :( 








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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #59 on: March 06, 2023, 09:13:17 PM »
GRRRR . . .


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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #60 on: March 07, 2023, 09:59:51 AM »
thank you all guys for the great information! will be used as reference for sure!
some GREAT pictures here indeed
fiberglass nose done, just need to open the air intakes
a few more dope / sanding and will be ready for primer!
will keep you updated
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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #61 on: March 07, 2023, 10:09:42 AM »
It's going to be beautiful!
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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #62 on: March 07, 2023, 08:11:06 PM »

 Looks really great, but I'm not understanding the process on the cowl opening. I thought the first picture with the open lower cooler intakes was going to be it, but now they're closed up.
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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #63 on: March 08, 2023, 03:12:09 AM »
Looks really great, but I'm not understanding the process on the cowl opening. I thought the first picture with the open lower cooler intakes was going to be it, but now they're closed up.

first picture is a 3d plastic part, used to to make the fiberglass mold. second picture is the molded part yet to have the opening cut

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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #64 on: March 08, 2023, 09:36:13 PM »

 Ok, I can see the the 3D material in the first photo now. I guess I'd assumed it was the final product because it was already blended into the fuselage.
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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #65 on: March 15, 2023, 01:08:43 PM »
i blended the 3d part to fit so when i vac formed the mold the final size was perfect as the part needed minor adjustment
now both planes are ready for final sandind and the fun begins

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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #66 on: March 15, 2023, 06:02:27 PM »
Nice.
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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #67 on: March 30, 2023, 03:54:02 AM »
first primer shot sanded, few spots to be corrected, and another last light coat of primer and we´re good to go

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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #68 on: March 30, 2023, 08:13:24 AM »
Nice.
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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #69 on: March 30, 2023, 06:58:30 PM »

 Looking good. I'm surprised the canopy isn't glued in and filled yet?
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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #70 on: March 31, 2023, 05:29:53 AM »
Looking good. I'm surprised the canopy isn't glued in and filled yet?
thanks! will be glued after plane is finished and dull clear coated. the real thing don´t have it blended to the painting as we do on our F2b, you can see them attached, so for the sake of some scale looks, will do like this.
truth: the cockpit 3d partes are being made and i will have them later, soo...... ;D

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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #71 on: March 31, 2023, 08:58:40 PM »
thanks! will be glued after plane is finished and dull clear coated. the real thing don´t have it blended to the painting as we do on our F2b, you can see them attached, so for the sake of some scale looks, will do like this.
truth: the cockpit 3d partes are being made and i will have them later, soo...... ;D

 10-4. I like the scale consideration but my only concern is it coming loose on you at some point. Don't get in a rush just because your 3D parts aren't quite ready, now is the time to make the final decision.
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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #72 on: April 03, 2023, 07:26:39 AM »

 10-4. I like the scale consideration but my only concern is it coming loose on you at some point. Don't get in a rush just because your 3D parts aren't quite ready, now is the time to make the final decision.
i have a tight schelude until next brasilian nats, so i have to hurry up
as for canopy i never had a loose one, even on 1/3 scale gas r/cmodels, it´s just a matter of right glue / proper mathod.
on monokoted models i use "RC56 canopy glue" and on painted models 30 mim epoxy ( i dull the 1/8 inside lip with 150 grit sandpaper) and expose some wood on the fuselage underneath the painted "frame" so it will suck epoxy and be invisible.
more work but the scale look is perfect.
but thanks for the heads up, always good to have nice input on the buulding!

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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #73 on: April 03, 2023, 07:31:31 PM »
i have a tight schelude until next brasilian nats, so i have to hurry up
as for canopy i never had a loose one, even on 1/3 scale gas r/cmodels, it´s just a matter of right glue / proper mathod.
on monokoted models i use "RC56 canopy glue" and on painted models 30 mim epoxy ( i dull the 1/8 inside lip with 150 grit sandpaper) and expose some wood on the fuselage underneath the painted "frame" so it will suck epoxy and be invisible.
more work but the scale look is perfect.
but thanks for the heads up, always good to have nice input on the buulding!

 Just a thought, I figured you knew what you're doing, carry on!  ;D
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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #74 on: April 14, 2023, 07:29:56 AM »
fun begins! white underside is done, next comes the light blue
45 days to brazilian Nats

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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #75 on: April 14, 2023, 07:44:41 AM »
Looking good.
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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #76 on: May 09, 2023, 05:23:32 PM »
Ok, back to the game and close to the finish line!
Brazilian Nats will be next 23 so i have 2 weeks tops to finish and test fly!
had a setback: painted the white and intermediate light blue last week. i was about to paint the navy blue on the weekend but something was bothering me...
the white lacquer paint i have used was not the usuall brand i work. Auto paint shops now are selling only cheap brands and due to the time frame i opted for what they have. HUGE mistake! i painted the bottom of the plane and used about 1/2 liter! and still covering wasn´t good. after a few days the paint was still a little tacky. I opted to go ahead, mad with the weight penalty and sub par finish. after a sleepless night i took lacquer thinner and removed all of the paint!
bought online my usual brand and started again ( not so bad as the primer used was 2K so the thinner preserved the finish)
guess what? used 1/4 of the bottle! the pigment was far superior! now i have painted bottom insignia and the intermediate blue with a free hand airbrush. tomorrow will be the navy blue....the clock is ticking
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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #77 on: May 09, 2023, 08:47:33 PM »
Looks real nice Fred!
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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #78 on: May 09, 2023, 09:18:00 PM »

 Awesome, thanks for the update!
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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #79 on: May 12, 2023, 05:37:45 PM »
night, rainy and paint keeps coming
tomorrow is insiginia day and hopefully sharkmouth too
thanks Crist and Wwarbird for the comments and for the input, it´s good to have some interaction here
9 days to competition, not sure if i´ll make it, but i´ll do my best

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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #80 on: May 13, 2023, 09:27:32 PM »
night, rainy and paint keeps coming
tomorrow is insiginia day and hopefully sharkmouth too
thanks Crist and Wwarbird for the comments and for the input, it´s good to have some interaction here
9 days to competition, not sure if i´ll make it, but i´ll do my best

 Looking really good, don't rush it just for the contest.  n1
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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #81 on: May 14, 2023, 09:04:27 AM »
thenk you Wayne
a bit more progress, now comes ink lines, weathering and clear coat
will try to finish in time, just too much effort to miss the date
if i clear coat on wednesday i´ll be able to test fly friday

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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #82 on: May 14, 2023, 12:35:21 PM »
 Just keeps getting better, I'm assuming all the graphics are paint?
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« Reply #83 on: May 15, 2023, 07:34:42 AM »
Just keeps getting better, I'm assuming all the graphics are paint?
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Thanks Wayne, all painted
almost like the real thing ( i am pretty sure the sharkmouth was hand painted)
unfortunately i have no dexterity for it
now comes the fun part: ink lines

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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #84 on: May 16, 2023, 08:31:47 AM »
hope Lt Stambook can trace a good pattern with the supplyed instruments

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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #85 on: May 16, 2023, 08:48:38 AM »
 LL~
hope Lt Stambook can trace a good pattern with the supplyed instruments
You could help him by displaying the maneuvers on the gunsight (hud). I just love cockpits.  No Stunter, especially a semi-scale should be without one.  Beautiful plane!

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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #86 on: May 16, 2023, 09:24:15 AM »
LL~You could help him by displaying the maneuvers on the gunsight (hud). I just love cockpits.  No Stunter, especially a semi-scale should be without one.  Beautiful plane!

Ken
good point Ken ;D! thanks
i do love build them, last year i had made a full job for a FW190 1/4,5 scale
with 3d printers, laser printers and some ingenuity you can do some pretty decent job nowadays

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« Reply #87 on: May 16, 2023, 11:15:46 AM »
good point Ken ;D! thanks
i do love build them, last year i had made a full job for a FW190 1/4,5 scale
with 3d printers, laser printers and some ingenuity you can do some pretty decent job nowadays
WOW, that could pass for real.  :)!

Makes mine look like a toy!

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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #88 on: May 16, 2023, 01:39:29 PM »
WOW, that could pass for real.  :)!

Makes mine look like a toy!

Ken
thanks Ken! this plane turned out pretty close to scale, i was aiming for the USA Top Gun tournament, unfortunately the ownwe sold it and the actual owner has no desire to compete

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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #89 on: May 16, 2023, 01:40:39 PM »
back to the Hellcat
dry fit of parts, weight before clear coat is 1170 grams, i am pleased with the result
now comes the ink lines, weathering and clear coat.

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« Reply #90 on: May 16, 2023, 07:00:14 PM »
Outstanding Fred!
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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #91 on: May 16, 2023, 08:27:45 PM »

 Very impressive work Fred.  y1
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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #92 on: May 17, 2023, 05:58:13 PM »
thanks Chris and Wayne!
finally done with the ink lines
tomorrow will do a bit of weathering and clear coat
hopefully will fly friday afternoon or saturday at least, just to set the timer and speed laps

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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #93 on: May 17, 2023, 09:24:34 PM »
 Wow, excellent detail. So nice to see ink work representative of true scale instead of just a bunch of random lines and shapes. It's this type of attention and effort that separates the master models from the rest. This is quickly becoming one of my all time favorite models.  y1
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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #94 on: May 17, 2023, 10:00:50 PM »
thanks Chris and Wayne!
finally done with the ink lines
tomorrow will do a bit of weathering and clear coat
hopefully will fly friday afternoon or saturday at least, just to set the timer and speed laps

The $64,000 question - will the clear be shine or satin? LL~

I am loving this plane.

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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #95 on: May 17, 2023, 10:31:02 PM »
The $64,000 question - will the clear be shine or satin? LL~

I am loving this plane.

Ken

 No doubt it will be awesome either way.

 This brings to mind Burns' Wildcat stunter that was done in satin. Only because it was a stunt model did the finish become controversial. There is no debating though that it was one of the most well detailed and finished C/L models ever, ultimately cool in the final product. If it's a military type design for example, and the builder chooses an appropriate satin finish, so be it. Shiny or satin, stunt model or not, in cases like these the judges should be looking at the quality of the work and not be biased toward a shiny finish just because it's a stunt model. After all, we call these type of stunters "semi-scale", right?
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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #96 on: May 18, 2023, 03:23:30 PM »
Wow, excellent detail. So nice to see ink work representative of true scale instead of just a bunch of random lines and shapes. It's this type of attention and effort that separates the master models from the rest. This is quickly becoming one of my all time favorite models.  y1
Thank you Wayne, i have used a 3 view drawing of the F6 to emulate the panelling, with a lot of adaptations to look similar, but i had to let a lot of stuff out as would be too much in such model. so far i am pleased with the result.
Actually that´s my apporach on F2b models ink lines, using real airplane similar panelling, otherwise looks like a cartoon

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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #97 on: May 18, 2023, 03:25:32 PM »
The $64,000 question - will the clear be shine or satin? LL~

I am loving this plane.

Ken
being a scale modeller by heart, i had no doubts  ;D

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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #98 on: May 18, 2023, 03:29:28 PM »
No doubt it will be awesome either way.

 This brings to mind Burns' Wildcat stunter that was done in satin. Only because it was a stunt model did the finish become controversial. There is no debating though that it was one of the most well detailed and finished C/L models ever, ultimately cool in the final product. If it's a military type design for example, and the builder chooses an appropriate satin finish, so be it. Shiny or satin, stunt model or not, in cases like these the judges should be looking at the quality of the work and not be biased toward a shiny finish just because it's a stunt model. After all, we call these type of stunters "semi-scale", right?

that´s kind of shortseeing, either shiny or satin or matt what counts for me is the final work. i had no doubts, matt closer to the real thing. unfortunately we have no points for finish, so i had nothing to loose and honestly a shiny warbird looks odd.
she´s drying the clear coat now, tomorrow will add hinges, install engines, check CG, add cockít and get ready for test fly.
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Re: Kaz Minato Hellcat
« Reply #99 on: May 18, 2023, 08:25:45 PM »

 Beautiful, and I love that you opted for a satin finish, it looks PERFECT! Can't wait to see a bunch of fully assembled ready-to-fly photos.
Narrowly averting disaster since 1964! 

Wayne Willey
Albert Lea, MN U.S.A. IC C/L Aircraft Modeler, Ex AMA member


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