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Title: I'm an Idiot
Post by: Steve Fitton on December 06, 2007, 09:39:44 AM
Look at the tailwheel mount, and tell me whats wrong with it! HB~>
Title: Re: I'm an Idiot
Post by: Ron King on December 06, 2007, 09:49:48 AM
So you have a tailwheel that angles toward the nose of the plane. What's wrong with that?  LL~ LL~ LL~

Back in the Sixties, you could claim originality points for something like this. Great idea, Steve. let us know how it works for you.  :## :##

Take care,

Ron
Title: Re: I'm an Idiot
Post by: RandySmith on December 06, 2007, 09:52:38 AM
Look at the tailwheel mount, and tell me whats wrong with it! HB~>


Hi Steve

Looks like late night building to me :-)  your being  too hard on  the mechanic  here  LOL
Not really a problem just bend a nice radius around so it points back towards the tail...  problem sovled

Randy
Title: Re: I'm an Idiot
Post by: Steve Fitton on December 06, 2007, 09:58:07 AM
Oddly enough, the original Nakke plans I'm using here DO show a tailwheel mount just like I inadvertently did.  I had ignored the plans and just done my regular tailwheel mount, albeit backwards(!) (Its hard to read instuctions in Finnish!!)

Of course, after an initial fit of cursing, I dropped the whole tailwheel mount on a bottle of acetone to dissolve the epoxy and liberate my last tailwheel wire I had in the shop.  Then I posted the pic.
Title: Re: I'm an Idiot
Post by: Dennis Adamisin on December 06, 2007, 10:25:24 AM
You're OK - you'll get a high score for FINNish!  H^^

Yesterday I was hacking out pieces for my Sheeks airplane.  Got all the tail parts cut and thought these are really light but flimsy.  Went to cap the ends with 1/4 square and noticed THAT wood was somewhat thicker, in fact it was about 1/16 thicker than the "1/4" I used on the stab...   HB~>  HB~>  HB~>

(BTW, new parts cut from REAL 1/4"  :-[)
Title: Re: I'm an Idiot
Post by: Bill Little on December 06, 2007, 10:59:45 AM
That would take all of about 2 minutes to fix.  A new piece of 1/16th, cut off most of the 1/16th there, and epoxy on the new piece that fits right.  Yeah, I know, you just added 3 grams to do it that way.............  And, someone might actually see it if the rear end gets busted up.  But it saves a WHOLE LOT of wasted time!
Title: Re: I'm an Idiot
Post by: don Burke on December 06, 2007, 11:37:48 AM
I would cut the taper into the plate the right way, then fill in the edge with balsa after I glued it on.  Most of that part of the plate is going to be sanded off anyhow.  Also you then don't have plywood to sand down on the edge.  Been there, done that!
Title: Re: I'm an Idiot
Post by: Steve Fitton on December 06, 2007, 01:53:08 PM
Back on track.  I liberated the wire from the bungled mount, and made a new mount this afternoon.  Thanks to Eric V for the tip about acetone undoing epoxy.  It worked like a charm!
Title: Re: I'm an Idiot
Post by: EddyR on December 06, 2007, 02:42:54 PM
Steve  The best pair of wheel pants I ever maid were both for the same side.
Ed
Title: Re: I'm an Idiot
Post by: Tom Niebuhr on December 06, 2007, 03:22:33 PM
Two L/H wheel pants; wrong thickness wood; Two L/H fuselage sides.. Yep.

If you have never made a mistake... you are a liar!
Title: Re: I'm an Idiot
Post by: Randy Powell on December 06, 2007, 03:44:25 PM
That's not a mistake. A mistake is:

Building two outboard wing panels for the same plane.
Building a wing and putting the leadout in the wrong wing.
Making the outboard wing longer than the inboard (or flaps)
Intstalling the stab upside down.
Putting the tank vent on the outboard side then wondering why 7 oz of fuel isn't enough to complete a pattern.
Building a plane for one engine, then decided halfway through to use a different engine but forgetting to modify the cowl to accept the new engine until after the plane is painted.

I could go on, but these are mistakes and yes, I've done every one of them (and more). If it's recoverable, I fix the problem. If not (like the leadouts heading out the wrong wing panel), I pitch it in the can and start over. It's amazing the decisions you can make when your tired.
Title: Re: I'm an Idiot
Post by: Dennis Adamisin on December 06, 2007, 03:52:03 PM
Two L/H wheel pants; wrong thickness wood; Two L/H fuselage sides.. Yep.

If you have never made a mistake... you are a liar!

AMEN Brother Tom!
Title: Re: I'm an Idiot
Post by: Eric Viglione on December 07, 2007, 05:28:57 PM
I find fire very theraputic...
EricV
Title: Re: I'm an Idiot
Post by: Shultzie on December 07, 2007, 06:49:15 PM
Been there....dun' dood some things pretty much the same n' a lot wer-sir'  n~
Just grab a set of dykes' and bent the damned thing the utter way?  LL~

but here is a photo of a REAL IDIOT AND A TEST TO PROVE IT?
Title: Re: I'm an Idiot
Post by: Doug Moon on December 07, 2007, 08:55:54 PM
I was building a rubber powered Sukoi and i built one fuse side on the plans as described.  Then proceeded to do the same thing again.  Had two very nice left sides.  That was 7 years ago and it still erks me because I really wanted to build that model, but oh well.

Can count the number of times glue on the bottom block and no tail wheel wire even in the plane!!! 
Title: Re: I'm an Idiot
Post by: john e. holliday on December 09, 2007, 09:38:42 AM
How about when you get to the field to make that first flight and discover that the fuel tank is still laying on the bench back home.  Yes it was done.  MERRY CHRISTMAS,  DOC Holliday
Title: Re: I'm an Idiot
Post by: Jim Thomerson on December 09, 2007, 12:34:27 PM
I was building a Herns Demon for OTS.  It has leadouts coming out over the wing.  Got it built and was making the fuel tank, which slides in from the front.  Realized that something was wrong as I was building the fuel tank upside down.  Then I saw that I had built the airplane to fly clockwise.   HB~>

Too late to make a change. I had learned to fly going clockwise, then switched over to flying counterclockwise, with the handle upside down, for many years.  So decided to relearn old tricks.  I have now been through two contests and flown between 50 -100 flights.  I am almost as comfortable as with  flying ccw.  I think with a few more flights, it will be about the same either way for me.  #^

It has been very challenging and interesting to do, however the airplane I am building now will go ccw, unless I make a mistake.  If you are getting bored with flying, I recommend learning to go the other direction to put some spice back in. I am looking to be, like George Aldrich, equally adept flying either way.   H^^
Title: Re: I'm an Idiot
Post by: Steve Scott on December 09, 2007, 06:58:26 PM
How about when you get to the field to make that first flight and discover that the fuel tank is still laying on the bench back home.  Yes it was done.  MERRY CHRISTMAS,  DOC Holliday
Or your handle?
Title: Re: I'm an Idiot
Post by: Robert W on December 10, 2007, 05:55:50 AM
I have a very nice looking rudder with the airfoil sanded on the wrong side hanging on the wall as a reminder. The worst part was I remmember thinking I should be very careful to to sand it correctly. I Did not notice the error until I had finished sanding and was test fitting the part.