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Title: How many hinges / inch? on an elevator?
Post by: dave siegler on March 04, 2012, 07:35:28 AM
For pin type hinges, how far apart should they be?  Also should you double up on the last 2?  Think of a twister sized airplane. 

Thanks!
Title: Re: How many hinges / inch? on an elevator?
Post by: Bootlegger on March 04, 2012, 09:13:17 AM
Mornin',  I'm thinkin about three hinges per side of elevator, starting about 1 inch from the joiner wire, and  the same from the end of the elev, then split the difference for the center hinge.
  This is the way that I do mine when I use pinned hinges.
 Most of the time on this type model, I use dacron hinges that I dope on the the flying surfaces, putting them next to each other, over and under.
 By putting them next to each other you have a sealed hinge line.

   Hope that this helps...
Title: Re: How many hinges / inch? on an elevator?
Post by: john e. holliday on March 04, 2012, 01:29:06 PM
Use cloth hinges from CLC or cut from cover all fabric from SIG.   Then you don't have to worry about sealing the hinge line.

But on pinned hinges like DuBro I set the elevator hinges per previous post.   The flaps get two hinges within and inch of each other at the ends of the flaps, about an inch in to first hinge.  Then hinges about one inch from end of flap horn.   Then space out three more hinges between the tip hinge and horn hinge.   This is on Nobler size planes on up. H^^
Title: Re: How many hinges / inch? on an elevator?
Post by: Chris Wilson on March 04, 2012, 06:54:48 PM
Use cloth hinges from CLC or cut from cover all fabric from SIG.   

Hi Doc,
           just having a quick look at your work here tells me that instead of taking material out by cutting or drilling holes into the TE you have added to it and I will wager that the TE and the flap is now far stronger and stiffer than with any other method of hinging.

Personally clothes hinges don't take my fancy but a neat job just looks so wonderfully 'retro' in the nicest of ways.

The doubling up of hinges is for what? Ensuring that they do not pull lose at the tips?
I can see the logic train behind it but can't help but wonder why just one at that tip shouldn't work if its done properly (as in pinned through the TE to prevent pull out.)

Cheers. :)
Title: Re: How many hinges / inch? on an elevator?
Post by: john e. holliday on March 05, 2012, 08:01:18 AM
I have had and seen single hinges break for some odd reason at the tip.   Maybe it is the way I put them in. H^^

Now that someone showed me that doping the hinge surfaces first makes for faster hinging.   Also no glue to chew off fingers.  Just hold hinge in place and dope it with thinned dope. 
Title: Re: How many hinges / inch? on an elevator?
Post by: Chris Wilson on March 05, 2012, 02:38:46 PM
I have had and seen single hinges break for some odd reason at the tip.   Maybe it is the way I put them in. H^^

Hi mate,
              please define 'break' here. Do you mean pull loose or physically destruct?

Perhaps the next size up in hinges is called for or the use of 'Robart' ones instead?

Cheers.







Title: Re: How many hinges / inch? on an elevator?
Post by: Gene O'Keefe on March 06, 2012, 01:13:32 PM
Three at a minimum,  4 would be better (per side) ... for a Twister, I'd say evenly spaced.
Title: Re: How many hinges / inch? on an elevator?
Post by: Bill Little on March 06, 2012, 02:29:16 PM
I would say it really depends on what type and size hinge you are using, also.  I have a good supply of Kleet large hinges so 3 per side on a Twister is all I would use.  Installed like Doc said.

I really prefer the nylon taffeta "over/under" hinges run full length to seal the hinge line.

BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM
Title: Re: How many hinges / inch? on an elevator?
Post by: Randy Powell on March 06, 2012, 05:08:04 PM
I've had hinges break on the flaps out at the tip before. I usually put two in next to each other at the tip. How many hinges sort of depends on the span and what you think. Usually most designs have from 4 to 6 on the flaps (though I've used more. Keeping them all aligned is the trick.