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Title: Elmer’s Advanced Pro Bond
Post by: Tim Chenevert on February 20, 2018, 04:55:50 AM
Anyone have experience building their planes with this glue? I heard it gives you very good bonds with balsa especially if you moisten the joints first. You do have to let it set some but gives you working time to set ribs etc. Tim
Title: Re: Elmer’s Advanced Pro Bond
Post by: Dane Martin on February 20, 2018, 09:15:02 AM
I used it on the last plane I built. Or Maybe the one before. It's actually pretty neat. It is the kind of glue that you must wet the joint first. Basically it's very similar to gorilla glue in that regard and application.
I use Titebond and Elmers white glue where those are applicable. The stuff that you need to wet the joint turned out to be tedious and a little slower (I'm impatient) and it does expand. So you need to be aware of that where you use it.
Title: Re: Elmer’s Advanced Pro Bond
Post by: Fredvon4 on February 20, 2018, 12:11:00 PM
Dane I use it a lot in my OTHER wood working projects... gun racks, quilt storage...yada yada

I like the stuff but do use many other aliphatic glues... fave being the Delux SuperPhatic....

I have several of these BabyBots for dispencing


Title: Re: Elmer’s Advanced Pro Bond
Post by: Dane Martin on February 20, 2018, 06:33:47 PM
I'll have to look that up. Very cool.
I would point out that this particular glue in question is extremely strong and does well in the high stress areas. Motor mounts, fuse formers, you know. All that jazz. I personally didn't prefer it for rib attachment points. But that's no big deal. Just my thought.
Title: Re: Elmer’s Advanced Pro Bond
Post by: phil c on February 21, 2018, 04:26:48 PM
Anyone have experience building their planes with this glue? I heard it gives you very good bonds with balsa especially if you moisten the joints first. You do have to let it set some but gives you working time to set ribs etc. Tim

If it's similar to Gorilla Glue, it's heavy like epoxy.  Nothing really evaporates.  Any of the carpenter glue are only about 40% solids, so they can save considerable weight.  You do have to deal with the moisture trying to warp sheet wood.  Using just enough to wet the joint will save even more weight without loosing strength.   Most joints can't be any stronger than the wood they join.
Title: Re: Elmer’s Advanced Pro Bond
Post by: Tim Chenevert on February 21, 2018, 05:19:20 PM
Thanks for the input on this glue. My brother in law suggested it but like y’all said, it may warp the wood and it does expand. Not really sure I want to try it on my build. Thanks, Tim
Title: Re: Elmer’s Advanced Pro Bond
Post by: Fredvon4 on February 22, 2018, 11:23:16 AM
Time the only real area I will not use many of the water based aliphatic glues is in large area sandwiches...like doublers

The glue dries by evaporation and thus the edges tend to dry first trapping the moisture inside

A friend, decades ago dorked a plane ( ringmaster I think) and we were somewhat stricken at the still wet glue in the nose of a 2 year old build using just Elmers yellow

I use a lot of wood glues and do not have much trouble with warping

Interestingly some one here claimed some of these type glues  are able to be heat activated... curious I slatherd some TiteBond on a pair of 1/16th x 4" x 6"  junk balsa....let dry put together and Put in my wife's heat press..... let cool.... works....