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Title: Eliptical wing help...
Post by: jim gilmore on September 14, 2010, 05:02:54 PM
Ok, Ive done straight and tapered. But is there a simple way to figure out the shapes of the ribs for an elipitcal wing ?
Title: Re: Eliptical wing help...
Post by: Randy Powell on September 14, 2010, 05:09:24 PM
Get Larry Cunningham to email you his elliptical spread sheet. Very cool and easy way to graph out an elliptical wing.
Title: Re: Eliptical wing help...
Post by: jim gilmore on September 14, 2010, 05:35:02 PM
Is Larry C. on here ? hello Larry ?
Title: Re: Eliptical wing help...
Post by: Tim Wescott on September 14, 2010, 06:06:35 PM
Get Larry Cunningham to email you his elliptical spread sheet. Very cool and easy way to graph out an elliptical wing.
What does one do when the LE is a section of an ellipse, but the flap hinge line is straight?  Certainly one would be constrained to holding one's rib tapers such that the hinge line thickness is maintained -- which would mean that the actual 'ribby' part of the wing wouldn't be quite elliptical.

(This is making my head hurt.  I think if I do it I'll just measure the chord at each rib station and plot a rib for that place).
Title: Re: Eliptical wing help...
Post by: jim gilmore on September 14, 2010, 07:53:49 PM
basically  I just want elipitical shape on the leading edge. straight trailing edge and add a flap wit eliptical trailing edge.

So here is a thought.
Would it be easier to create a 3 or 4 piece block for the leading edge from multiple pieces of 1/4 or 3/16 and fuild it like a linclon log wing jig ?
Piecing in each rib like the stelitto is built ?
Title: Re: Eliptical wing help...
Post by: Tim Wescott on September 14, 2010, 08:47:13 PM
basically  I just want elipitical shape on the leading edge. straight trailing edge and add a flap wit eliptical trailing edge.

So here is a thought.
Would it be easier to create a 3 or 4 piece block for the leading edge from multiple pieces of 1/4 or 3/16 and fuild it like a linclon log wing jig ?
Piecing in each rib like the stelitto is built ?
I guess a molded leading edge is right out, unless you're into NC machining and carbon fiber.

Depending on how much curvature you want you could either laminate it around a form out of many pieces of 1/16 or 3/32, or you could build it up as you say.

Laminating works a treat for curvy wingtips on old-timers; it should be the bee's knees here, too.
Title: Re: Eliptical wing help...
Post by: Wynn Robins on September 14, 2010, 10:17:51 PM
why not scale down a plan that already has them plotted - I have a bunch of spitfire, plans that have the ribs shown - also have other elliptical wing designs
Title: Re: Eliptical wing help...
Post by: jim gilmore on September 14, 2010, 10:26:20 PM
I'm sitting in nyc. I have limited access to stuff.
No plotter,no printer at the momemt. using paper and my netbook to trace images is kind of slow.
What plans can I get a copy of ? anything close to 28"
Title: Re: Eliptical wing help...
Post by: Neville Legg on September 15, 2010, 12:57:27 AM
I would think an "I" beam wing structure would be the quickest and easiest way to go? Take a look a Jack Sheeks Spitfire from '68, in Flying Models.

Cheers    Neville
Title: Re: Eliptical wing help...
Post by: jim gilmore on September 15, 2010, 01:55:21 AM
anybody got some build picture for an eliptical wing ? thats an "I" beam ??
Title: Re: Eliptical wing help...
Post by: Leester on September 15, 2010, 04:10:32 AM
Since your in NYC get ahold of Windy in Rutherford, he built and still has the I Beam Spitfire.
Title: Re: Eliptical wing help...
Post by: Neville Legg on September 15, 2010, 08:59:17 AM
I built Jack Sheeks Spitfire directly from the magazine drawing in 1969ish, no plotters or printers then? ;D Its Quite easy, and you could make your own drawing to any size! Someone on this forum should be able to E-mail you a decent copy!

Cheers     Neville

Title: Re: Eliptical wing help...
Post by: Randy Powell on September 15, 2010, 10:05:30 AM
I molded my leading edge with strips of 1/16" balsa and a mold. The taper was true eliptical (I used Larry's program to plot out the ribs. The trailing edge of the wing was swept forward somewhat and was also tapered. The wing was a bit complicated to build, but preformed very well.
Title: Re: Eliptical wing help...
Post by: Neville Legg on September 15, 2010, 10:57:42 AM
If you take a close look at a Spitfire wing, the L/E and T/E leave the fuselage at 90 degrees, in the plan view! That makes life easier! ;D

Cheers