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Offline Leester

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Drill bit sizes
« on: February 29, 2016, 07:37:42 AM »
I am installing a Tom Morris suspended B/C the 1/8" post supplied (3.19 mm) fits perfectly through the B/C. The B/C mounts I installed I drilled with a 1/8" bit..BUT the post won't go through, the hole is just a tad to small. Redrilling with a 9/64" bit gives it to much slop, is there a bit size made for the 3.19 mm post ??? or ??? I really don't want to get a round file and mess with that way of fitting. I haven't called Tom, figured he's to busy and that some one here would know..

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Re: Drill bit sizes
« Reply #1 on: February 29, 2016, 08:42:19 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: February 29, 2016, 09:38:44 AM »
Thanks Mike, went to True Value and picked one up.. H^^ H^^
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Re: Drill bit sizes
« Reply #3 on: February 29, 2016, 10:15:01 AM »
For critical holes, I usually drill slightly undersize, and finish with a round needle file.  You can get exact size that way.

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Re: Drill bit sizes
« Reply #4 on: February 29, 2016, 10:48:55 AM »
For critical holes, I usually drill slightly undersize, and finish with a round needle file.  You can get exact size that way.

If you're drilling wood and you're not a Super Machinist that's probably the only reliable way.  Anything that's got a lot of give to it (like wood or plastic) will tend to leave you with a smaller hole than drilling into steel.

I'm going to contradict myself: you may be able to do this by drilling undersized, soaking the hole with thin CA to make everything more rigid, then drilling it out with a 1/8" bit or a #30.  You'll have to do some experimentation and there'll probably still be some variation, though.
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Re: Drill bit sizes
« Reply #5 on: February 29, 2016, 01:01:16 PM »
For a critical hole I use the correct size drill.  You don't have to be a "super machinist" to make a hole in wood, just the right tool.  A 1/8 drill will make a 1/8 hole, unless you've done something wrong.  A file????
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Re: Drill bit sizes
« Reply #6 on: February 29, 2016, 01:38:07 PM »
I used the # 30 bit and all is well.. thanks again. I also marked it so I'd know it's size.
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Re: Drill bit sizes
« Reply #7 on: February 29, 2016, 02:14:45 PM »
You can just take your 1/8th drill and hump it in and out allot, that will open it up.


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Re: Drill bit sizes
« Reply #8 on: February 29, 2016, 02:38:30 PM »
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I dunno...sir....(responding to your emoticon)

I have a good set of calipers .001 and a fairly expensive set of drill bits from teeny tiny (#60) up to 3/4"

I mike the piano wire or rod for the bell crank...find the exact same drill and the hole is always too tight in BC materiel ( aluminum, Delrin, PC board, Nylon, Phenolic) and too loose in Ply wood

MY drill press does have some measurable run out but not horrid

I frequently deliberately drill under sized and use a round needle file to get the fit I desire


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Re: Drill bit sizes
« Reply #9 on: February 29, 2016, 04:38:41 PM »
Spent $$$ on a drill press.. spent $$$ on drill bit's, suppoase to be 1/8" wire used 1/8" drill bit  mw~ mw~ mw~ hummmm 
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« Reply #10 on: February 29, 2016, 04:41:28 PM »
Makes me think of the commercial with Tarzan and Woman !!!  LL~ LL~ LL~
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Re: Drill bit sizes
« Reply #11 on: February 29, 2016, 05:49:29 PM »
I use a Vermont Amereican Brad Point drill bit. On profile models, I try to mount the bellcrank between the spars so typically, I'm drilling through 1/8" balsa, 1/8" spruce spar doubler and a piece of 3/8" engine bearer on both sides.

So far, the holes have all ended up a neat sliding fit on 1/8" music wire—usually K&S.

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Re: Drill bit sizes
« Reply #12 on: February 29, 2016, 05:57:43 PM »
Spent $$$ on a drill press.. spent $$$ on drill bit's, suppoase to be 1/8" wire used 1/8" drill bit  mw~ mw~ mw~ hummmm 

Music wire is generally a bit oversized, so if that's what's being used, then the "1/8 inch" stuff is probably a bit bigger than 1/8".
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Re: Drill bit sizes
« Reply #13 on: February 29, 2016, 07:45:03 PM »
The emoticon had to do with the file.  Believe me, I'm well aware of problems that can be caused by drills, especially if you are trying to go through dissimilar materials.   Some common sense applies here.  Drilling a hole for a bellcrank shouldn't be a monumental task.  The more important fit is the post to the bushing.  I actually ream that one.  Filing a hole makes no sense to me.  BTW using calipers is not a good way to measure a drill.

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Re: Drill bit sizes
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2016, 04:30:20 PM »
For a critical hole I use the correct size drill.  You don't have to be a "super machinist" to make a hole in wood, just the right tool.  A 1/8 drill will make a 1/8 hole, unless you've done something wrong.  A file????

No. Typical drill bit tolerance is + 0/-.003. Reamer tolerance is typically + .0015/- 0. Even with a .125 drill bit (measured) used to drill a hole in metal will not give you a hole that a part will slip into. In full size aircraft work, 1/8" fasteners almost always call out a #30 hole unless you can drive the fastener in. That's .0025 or so difference in size.

Typical dial or vernier calipers are accurate to .0005 and can be used to measure drill bits and rods just fine. The main thing is the comparative readings. If the rod measures .125, you normally need a bit .003 larger.

Truly "critical" holes should be reamed for a line-to-line fit, which is 0.00 +.0005/- 0.00 as compared to the part being installed in the hole.

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Re: Drill bit sizes
« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2016, 06:04:25 PM »
Small tapered round files are pretty common in peanut sized free flight building. I have one that is about 5" long and tapers from a fine point to 1/8". Just the tool for making holes for a nose button or wheel axles.

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Re: Drill bit sizes
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2016, 03:44:58 PM »
I would have suggested burnishing the hole in plywood with a piece of the 1/8" music wire, preferably in the drillpress. Grind or buff a little chamfer on the end of the wire to get it started in the hole. Don't use too much rpm or you might start a fire.  #^ Steve
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