I hve a Nobler built and has 4 flights. I used the included control rods. Now what should I do.

I  assume you mean the Top FLite Nobler Arf?

If so, then at a minimum, take off the canopy, and flood the clevises on the flap horns with Locktite 242 (the blue stuff). this will help. I can't remember if the elevator horn is soldered or not, and I am too lazy to look. So if it is also threaded, cut into the monocote near the tail and use the same locktite.

I found that the locktite really held my clevises on the stock Arf Nobler. I eventually replaced the clevises with ball links (that was a pain!) on the Arf Nobler, but I found it the locktite was really holding pretty good.

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I didnt know the Teosawki was an ARF...Who sells them?

Clayton Smith from here in NC makes them, when he makes them! 

Greensboro or W-S.

Bill <><

whats wrong with the control rods and arf nobler kit? i was thinking of getting one someday.
thanks for any info
mark eisenhut

Mike, the control hardware in the Top Flight kit is weak. Basicly, the bellcrank, and clevises are the weak links. I was able to pull the hinge pin out of a clevis with almost no effort with a pair of needlenose pliers. I also replaced the bellcrank and leadouts, at the strong suggestions from other that learned the hard way. If I remember correctly, the leadout cable was sawing thru the bellcrank on some airplnes, and I think the crimps were causing some headache as well.

Flying Models magazine (dont remember the issue) had a good article on all the Nobler improvments that were being done, and there should be lots more others can tell when they read your post.

I am useing stock control horns, and pushrods on mine. Sullivan clevises and leadouts on a Sig 3"bellcrank are the only replacments I made to my Nobler. It flew great until the wind did me in.

Good luck with your Nobler,

Greg

whats wrong with the control rods and arf nobler kit? i was thinking of getting one someday.
thanks for any info
mark eisenhut

Hi Mark,

Unfortunately, the stock Nobler ARF control system is not very good at all if you want reliability.  It *might* last the lifetime of the plane......... it *might* shorten the lifetime fo the plane (like after 4-12 flights).

The clevices are not good.  Best to just put in a nylon BC, some wrapped or solid LOs, and new pushrods.  Just replacing them with normal parts and wire will bring it up to standards of the '60s.  Tom Morris makes a drop in ball link control system for the TF Nobler ARF, but at about $40 it is a *little* pricey.  I bought them and will use them in a plans built Nobler (Louis Grondal AMA Special. 1960 and 1962 World Champion).

Bill <><

so do all the arf kits have this problem tf and brodaks
thank you
 mark eisenhut

YES