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Offline David Ebers

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Adjustable leadouts
« on: October 28, 2021, 02:06:31 PM »
Any pros or cons using an adjustable leadout slider with a nylon block (Brodak's) instead of brass eyelets?

 

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Re: Adjustable leadouts
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2021, 06:22:27 PM »
David, they work fine, i even use them on 1/2a's.
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Re: Adjustable leadouts
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2021, 06:48:39 PM »
I round the hole out so that the lines don't saw into the nylon as fast but other than that they are just ad good as eyelets.

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Re: Adjustable leadouts
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2021, 08:22:12 PM »
They weigh a teeny bit more than eyelets -- but it's essentially what I use.  (I say "essentially" because I make mine up out of plywood & brass tubing, with basswood rails to slide on.  But it's basically the same thing, only without having to mail order yet more stuff).
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Re: Adjustable leadouts
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2021, 01:56:14 PM »
I have always bushed the holes in the nylon slider with brass eyelets.

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Re: Adjustable leadouts
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2021, 03:34:42 PM »
They weigh a teeny bit more than eyelets -- but it's essentially what I use.  (I say "essentially" because I make mine up out of plywood & brass tubing, with basswood rails to slide on.  But it's basically the same thing, only without having to mail order yet more stuff).
I found some 1/16" thick "tongue depressor" like "sticks" at Walmart that are out of some wood that is as hard as oak and lighter than Bass.  Lifetime supply for $1.98 (plus tax). I use them for slides on my leadouts and anywhere else calling for thin hard wood.  I use eyelets with the rounded part on the inside.  I have used nylon but the leadouts sawed into it from the back where you can't see it.  Forgive the rough wood in the pix.
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Re: Adjustable leadouts
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2021, 10:20:19 AM »
Only comment is if you are using solid leadouts you need the larger (short) eyelets to allow the solids to flex and not stick. I have used the nylon block slider with flexible cable works great. I have also done the plywood strip with the multi holes and eyelets that works and is a little lighter then the nylon block slider. The plywood with multi holes is simple to make and gives you roughly -+3/32" position control which for me is well within what I can notice at the handle.

One tip I would suggest that you consider, have the leadout overhang long enough for one clip off and reset the ends. This allows changing the slider block/eyelets out at least once if you are a heavy flier without needing to dig into the bellcrank to change the whole leadout.

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Re: Adjustable leadouts
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2021, 07:16:10 PM »
One tip I would suggest that you consider, have the leadout overhang long enough for one clip off and reset the ends. This allows changing the slider block/eyelets out at least once if you are a heavy flier without needing to dig into the bellcrank to change the whole leadout.
More of a question than a comment. If you use the AMA double wrap you can cut off the shrink tubing and "unwrap" the lines, fix whatever then rewrap them in the same place.  Am I wrong?  I have to confess to having done it.  Plane survived.  Am I in violation of some "Common Knowledge" thing?

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Re: Adjustable leadouts
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2021, 11:41:00 PM »
Thanks for the information gentlemen. I appreciate it.

Any thoughts on using brass tubing in place of eyelets to terminate leadouts?

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Re: Adjustable leadouts
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2021, 06:54:42 AM »
Thanks for the information gentlemen. I appreciate it.

Any thoughts on using brass tubing in place of eyelets to terminate leadouts?
Yes - Don't unless they are very short and you round out the edges.  If you use a tube you create 2 bend/rub points at the tip.  The perfect "eyelet" had no flats.  They don't make those unfortunately....maybe they do, line eyelets are flared on both ends, have to look into that.

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