Author Topic: A slooooooww build of a semi-scale Pawnee (Read 17258 times)

Will Hinton · « **Reply #100 on:** February 21, 2013, 08:45:11 AM »

Covered the wings and fuse with the 21st Century film. I love the ease of working with it.
Here's a couple of pics at this point. Flaps & elevators come next.

john e. holliday · « **Reply #101 on:** February 21, 2013, 11:08:08 AM »

Hey, you just may have that airborne before I get my P-47 done.

Will Hinton · « **Reply #102 on:** February 21, 2013, 12:02:41 PM »

C'mon Doc, get at that '47! Springs a commin'!

Jeff Traxler · « **Reply #103 on:** February 22, 2013, 12:42:48 AM »

Quote from: Will Hinton on February 19, 2013, 02:17:43 PM

Yeah, I know, but I gotta pick back, ya know. (Especially on Traxler!) We owe each other money, or guitar parts, or....?

The price I pay trying to put a little "Sparkus under your Carcas"

Rick Henry · « **Reply #104 on:** March 04, 2013, 11:03:29 AM »

Looking really cool Will. Cant wait to see it finished.

Rick Henry

Will Hinton · « **Reply #105 on:** March 05, 2013, 08:33:17 AM »

Hey Rick, thanks for the comment, it's great to find you among the living again!!!!!! Hope all is well with you, hope to see ya a couple of times this summer!!

Bill Little · « **Reply #106 on:** March 05, 2013, 12:58:54 PM »

Hi Brother Will,

I hope to get to see this one flying! It will look awesome, especially while going through the pattern!

BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM

Will Hinton · « **Reply #107 on:** April 11, 2013, 05:22:57 PM »

well, with some strange cosmic thing happening to get me in gear again, I have the main frame ready for clear. I haven't even covered the flaps and elevators yet, but I won't be spraying them or the wing and horizontal stab. I like the appearance of the Century 21 fabric too much to disturb it. Looks just like the old Pawnee!
The fuse will get Nason clear on it, and it will be a couple of very light coats, just enough to fuel proof and seal it all. May even mount the Evo 60 next week! It ain't front row, probably back row, but what the heck, I been there before.

Avaiojet · « **Reply #108 on:** April 11, 2013, 05:48:38 PM »

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It ain't front row, probably back row, but what the heck, I been there before.

Will,

You know I've been following your build, and I think you've done a great job here, especially with the cockpit frame and overall design, so, I see no reason to beat yourself up. To the contrary actually.

You know I have a thing for dusters. I have one in my bucket.

The model really looks great! Kudos!

Charles

Will Hinton · « **Reply #109 on:** April 11, 2013, 08:06:20 PM »

Thanks Charles. Ya know, a turbo Thrush done with electric would be a great subject. (Hint, hint)

MarcusCordeiro · « **Reply #110 on:** April 12, 2013, 04:56:33 AM »

That's so cool.
Love the simple graphichs and the colors.

Marcus

Will Hinton · « **Reply #111 on:** April 12, 2013, 06:43:44 AM »

Thanks Marcus - the graphics are the same as the full scale one was. I left off a couple of really little markings, but other than that, it's the same.

Will Hinton · « **Reply #112 on:** June 09, 2013, 03:20:38 PM »

Finally sprung free a little free time to get back to the job. I hate the mess of tongue mufflers, almost refuse to run one, so I drilled the end of the Evo 60 one out and built a CF muffler on it. I haven't post cured it yet, but that comes tomorrow when I can be in the shop to monitor the oven temps.
I built one of these for my first LA46 and it's really light, quiet, and works great. (Did I say it's light?)

Avaiojet · « **Reply #113 on:** June 09, 2013, 06:35:59 PM »

Quote from: Will Hinton on April 11, 2013, 08:06:20 PM

Thanks Charles. Ya know, a turbo Thrush done with electric would be a great subject. (Hint, hint)

"Good" Will Hinton,

Nice effort with your muffler. Kudos.

The "Thrush."

It does have good moments. Could use an "off the shelf" wing, there are plenty out there to choose from.

So, "Good" Will, what are you saying? Are you looking forward to or possibly considering a Thrush for your next project?

It is a handsom aircraft to model.

Charles

Will Hinton · « **Reply #114 on:** June 13, 2013, 01:43:43 PM »

No Charles, you said you loved the ag planes so I was suggesting that you build one of the rascals!

My next project will likely be to finish my Tri-Pacer scale ship.

I finished the muffler last night, got the four hours of post curing done and weighed it this AM - 1 1/4 oz, or 36 grams, whichever way you wanna read the scales.

Avaiojet · « **Reply #115 on:** June 13, 2013, 04:27:15 PM »

Quote from: Will Hinton on June 13, 2013, 01:43:43 PM

No Charles, you said you loved the ag planes so I was suggesting that you build one of the rascals!
My next project will likely be to finish my Tri-Pacer scale ship.

I finished the muffler last night, got the four hours of post curing done and weighed it this AM - 1 1/4 oz, or 36 grams, whichever way you wanna read the scales.

"Good" Will Hinton,

I see, Thought you had interest in building one.

BTW. Your Duster came out great!! Kudos!! Inspiration for sure.

This is the only Duster I plan on building.

Please forgive me, I hope you don't think the photo os off topic.

Charles

Will Hinton · « **Reply #116 on:** June 13, 2013, 08:58:52 PM »

Oh no, not at all - I love the Ag-Cat! Always hoped I could upgrade to one, but alas, sigh.

Avaiojet · « **Reply #117 on:** June 14, 2013, 06:01:00 PM »

Quote from: Will Hinton on June 13, 2013, 08:58:52 PM

Oh no, not at all - I love the Ag-Cat! Always hoped I could upgrade to one, but alas, sigh.

"Good" Will Hinton,

You got me thinking about these Dusters, inspiration works, so I went back and reviewed your Thread.

Ya know, I totally forgot all about you having the actual aircraft, that absolutely must have been a joy to fly.

I also forgot you built the fuselage from scratch and used a wing that was just hanging around.

What I was hoping to see was a bit of detail on how you constructed the cockpit frame? That you had to draw. Correct? I'm also guessing you used thin ply in that frame structure?

Got any photos of that area that you havn't posted?

Nice cat.

I also noticed that your grandson plays baseball. Have I got a baseball story that's unbelivable and true.

Keep up the good work!!

Charles

Will Hinton · « **Reply #118 on:** June 14, 2013, 08:03:58 PM »

The frame structure for the cockpit area is framed up with 1/8 balsa, then when the clear windows were in, I overlaid those with 1/64 ply. The top, of course, is carved from a block and then hollowed extensively. I didn't/don't worry about strength much in a spot like that, as long as it's vibration resistant I'm happy.
I never draw my ships out except for maybe an outline sometimes. I just start tossing stuff together and hope for the best. seems to work for me, maybe not for others.

You're right, the Pawnee is a good plane to fly as long as you are willing to accept the couple of shortcomings it has. The vertical tail is very anemic and any direct crosswind above 15 knots is work. Of course, by then you've quit spraying anyway if you're knocking down "hot stuff'. (At least around here.) Plus, it really is a small airplane for the flat farms in northwest Ohio - some fields here are two to three tank fields with a Pawnee's 150 gallon tank. If it's hot, that drops fast. Foliar feed is very heavy and that was a super busy job for me, but the stuff is very heavy for the amount of gallons per acre and the Pawnee takes some nasty slow application speeds to get it done. But... still a good starter ship for a new operation.

Will Hinton · « **Reply #119 on:** July 28, 2013, 03:36:37 PM »

Everybody please set down so ya don't fall from fainting - the Pawnee is ready for flight trimming!!! At last.
660 squares, 66 ounces, about four ounces heavier than I predicted or wanted.
Donna did notice I don't have my AMA number on the wing yet! Oh well, after I fly it.
Here's some pictures of the beast.

Will Hinton · « **Reply #120 on:** July 28, 2013, 03:38:00 PM »

A couple more.

Avaiojet · « **Reply #121 on:** July 28, 2013, 03:42:49 PM »

Oh........My gosh!!

Makes me wanna build a duster!!

"Good." Send me a PM and I'll make up some AMA numbers for you. I don't see any "N" numbers?

Great job!!

Charles

MarcusCordeiro · « **Reply #122 on:** July 28, 2013, 05:27:57 PM »

Amazing!!
Loved that cockpit!!

Marcus

Jeff Traxler · « **Reply #123 on:** July 28, 2013, 10:30:24 PM »

Will,
I think it needs a spreader

Will Hinton · « **Reply #124 on:** July 29, 2013, 07:26:51 AM »

Ya know, Jeff, I contemplated that! I also thought about building a little air-driven pump for between the LG legs like the full scale. Guess I just got lazy on it. I also had planned on struts, but didn't like the need for attachment points at both the ends and the support strut halfway out. (Did I mention I just got lazy?)

Charles, I sent you a PM. Thanks for the offer! I'm just going to put the numbers on the outboard flap.

Thanks all for your kind comments; in spite of the time span I have really enjoyed this build and am pleased with the appearance as compared to the full scale ship.

john e. holliday · « **Reply #125 on:** July 29, 2013, 09:11:47 AM »

Is that your number on the fuselage sides or the number of the real plane?? By the way the plane looks great.

Will Hinton · « **Reply #126 on:** July 29, 2013, 11:30:12 AM »

Doc, that's the N number of the real one. I should look it up on the FAA site and see if it's still in Ohio.
Thanks foir the compliment, now if it'll just fly.
Okay, I looked it up and it has been deregistered. Wonder if the guy rolled it up in a little ball like he did the one before it? He wasn't so reliable from what i could tell.

john e. holliday · « **Reply #127 on:** July 30, 2013, 09:46:11 AM »

Well now that changes things. You need one of these painters that can put your number on so that you have to hold the plane just right to see it. I seen a custom car that had flames all over it until you got next to the car and they disappeared. Or put you AMA number inside the cowl and show it when asked where it is at. Other wise use Magic Marker for the number and remove with alcohol after the contest is over.

Will Hinton · « **Reply #128 on:** July 30, 2013, 12:11:17 PM »

I thought about the magic marker thing, Doc, but the wife would have killed me.

Ty, I've probably lost enough brain cells with the "hot stuff" entering my lungs without adding (or is it subtracting) more grief!

Bill Little · « **Reply #129 on:** July 30, 2013, 12:15:43 PM »

Brother Will,

Well, you beat me to the finish line as regards to finishing a model! And I think it came out great. Good Luck with trimming, it will look really good flying the pattern. That extra bit of realism in the model should help!

BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM

Will Hinton · « **Reply #130 on:** July 30, 2013, 06:35:26 PM »

Thanks Coach! I hope those hands of yours are really starting to cook by now, Donna's are showing a little bit more feeling. Maybe we can pitch another tent in Muncie next nats?

Bill Little · « **Reply #131 on:** August 01, 2013, 05:54:30 PM »

Quote from: Will Hinton on July 30, 2013, 06:35:26 PM

Thanks Coach! I hope those hands of yours are really starting to cook by now, Donna's are showing a little bit more feeling. Maybe we can pitch another tent in Muncie next nats?

Thanks, Brother Will. Aaron and I just don't go together well with tents and cots...........

BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM

Will Hinton · « **Reply #132 on:** August 02, 2013, 08:38:21 AM »

and thunderstorms!

Jeff Traxler · « **Reply #133 on:** August 02, 2013, 01:32:36 PM »

Nothin more fun than drying socks hanging from the rear view mirror with the motor idleing.Tent camping can be fun!!!!!!

Will Hinton · « **Reply #134 on:** August 02, 2013, 03:41:29 PM »

Except for the fact that the tent I loaned the Little's split in two during the storm and soaked EVERYTHING-including Bill & Aaron! Ya shoulda seen them when they showed up at our motor home! Donna and I still feel bad that our rotten tent caused them all that discomfort, but like the true gentlemen they are, we're still great friends!

Bill Little · « **Reply #135 on:** August 02, 2013, 06:32:57 PM »

Quote from: Will Hinton on August 02, 2013, 03:41:29 PM

Except for the fact that the tent I loaned the Little's split in two during the storm and soaked EVERYTHING-including Bill & Aaron! Ya shoulda seen them when they showed up at our motor home! Donna and I still feel bad that our rotten tent caused them all that discomfort, but like the true gentlemen they are, we're still great friends!

Brother Will,

If that was the worst thing that I had ever endured, I would truly be blessed! No ones fault as far as I know. We got through it, thanks to the two of you and I am truly looking forward to seeing you in person again, soon.

Bill

Crist Rigotti · « **Reply #136 on:** August 05, 2013, 10:27:31 AM »

Dear Lazy Will,

Looks great! I know the feeling when a project gets done that has been taking waaaaay too long. See you in a few weeks.

Will Hinton · « **Reply #137 on:** August 05, 2013, 04:25:48 PM »

Thanks Crist! However, I am not able to attend the FCM this year unless something drastic happens here with the radiation and/or chemo treatments for Donna. I've left Allen in the lurch twice this summer!
The (very) slight possibility exists that i might be able to run down on Sunday just to kabitz, but I'm not counting on it at all.
Dang, but life can sure get in the way of neat stuff!

Dennis Adamisin · « **Reply #138 on:** August 05, 2013, 06:40:52 PM »

Looks GREAT Will.

...& GOD BLESS Donna...

Will Hinton · « **Reply #139 on:** August 05, 2013, 07:10:19 PM »

Thanks Denny!! I'll miss kabitzing with you as well.

Will Hinton · « **Reply #140 on:** September 20, 2013, 07:52:32 AM »

I need to thank Charles at CFC Graphics publicly for the AMA numbers he sent for the Pawnee. He even sent an extra set!! Thank you Charles for exceptional service, this makes it much easier for me on the final act of the beast! Now, if I could just get up the energy/desire to fly the darned thing!!

Jeff Traxler · « **Reply #141 on:** September 20, 2013, 02:30:45 PM »

I will GLADLY drive out and launch

If we loose an "A" we can do lunch too

Will Hinton · « **Reply #142 on:** September 21, 2013, 02:01:26 PM »

"If we loose an "A" we can do lunch too"
Errr, aaah, meaning? (What is an "A"?) How do we loose one?

Jeff Traxler · « **Reply #143 on:** September 21, 2013, 10:35:39 PM »

Elementary Watson........Launch-a=LUNCH Since I figured it out looks like you're buyin'

Avaiojet · « **Reply #144 on:** October 30, 2013, 06:19:31 AM »

"Good" Will Hinton,

Did you fly your outstanding Pawnee yet?

Charles

Will Hinton · « **Reply #145 on:** October 30, 2013, 06:40:31 AM »

Hi Charles,
No flights on the Pawnee this year, I'm afraid. However, with Donna recovering so wonderfully and life easing a bit toward "normal" (whatever THAT is for us) I'm hoping to re-light the fire next season. I still want to have to move up to expert soon, so that means I gotta burn some fuel. (NO Jeff, I don't need batteries in my life! Cool it.)

john e. holliday · « **Reply #146 on:** October 30, 2013, 10:41:47 AM »

Hey you still need batteries to light the plug, unless you have diesel on us.

Will Hinton · « **Reply #147 on:** October 30, 2013, 01:46:26 PM »