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A little side project...
« on: January 10, 2017, 08:47:23 PM »
 Here we have the "JAP ZERO" (I love that they actually put that on the box)  LL~

 I found this little "gem" on Ebay recently, a whole fourteen bucks I think it was. It was partially started as shown, and complete except for the L/E and T/E pieces. Oh, the controls and L/G were missing too. The decals were there but they're toast. I've sourced some fresh stock for the L/E and T/E and I started in on building up the L/E tonight. I've got a few ideas in store for it and at this point I'm thinking it's going to end up with a Medallion .09 on the nose, we'll see. Anyway, I'm planning on piddling around on this one off and on while also working on the 'Hutch P-38...
« Last Edit: June 21, 2019, 05:51:35 PM by wwwarbird »
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Re: A little side project...
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2017, 02:49:03 PM »
Couldn't quite tell if it said 36" or 38" span, but I don't think it'll keep up with your P-38 unless you put at least a .25 in it, and probably not even then. Got a good .35 Combat engine in the drawer?  y1 Steve
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Re: A little side project...
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2017, 06:21:02 PM »
 Steve,

 Per the box art it's only 28" span and calls for .09 to .19 power. Since I don't have the original L/E or T/E, and the plans don't give the info, I have to take a guess at the rib spacing. After looking things over I've settled on 2-1/2" inch spacing, which will end up giving me about a 30 to 32" wing including the tips when finished. There's not much chord either so it's still going to be a small wing, I bet a Norvel .074 would fly this thing just fine. If I decide to stick with the Medallion .09 it's going to be pretty crazy.  
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Re: A little side project...
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2017, 10:07:18 PM »
 Got the wing framed up tonite..

 First was laying out some blue tape onto the benchtop then drawing out a "plan" on it for the wing. I then marked and cut the rib notches in the L/E and T/E sections. After all the parts were ready to go I glued some 3/4" square blocks onto the tape with CA to create an elevated "jig". Lastly it was to just align and pin down the L/E and T/E securely to the "jig" blocks, then fit and install the ribs. Tip rib to tip rib is now 30".  ;D
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Re: A little side project...
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2017, 04:17:08 PM »
Ok, I read it better today than previously. A .21FP should work fine...  LL~ Steve
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Re: A little side project...
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2017, 08:44:41 PM »
Ok, I read it better today than previously. A .21FP should work fine...  LL~ Steve

 Hmm, I do have a brand new FP .20 sitting on the shelf, but nope. I've never had one, but I've always thought the Conquest .15 was a pretty cool engine. VD~

 Actually, I've now committed to the Medallion .09. I cut out a new fuselage today with the proper beam spacing for it, the old original mounts were about a 1/4" too wide.
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Re: A little side project...
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2017, 09:15:45 PM »
 Tonight I flipped the wing over, pinned it back down, and made a new platform for the bellcrank. Next I widened the existing notches for the mount just a bit because I made the platform about 1/4" wider (front to rear) than the original. With these changes it now sandwiches between the rib and the newly added bottom spar, ending up flush with the L/E of the spar. The way it all worked out it now allows the whole wing center section to be glued together creating a solid unit, good and sturdy for the bellcrank mount. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that the wing didn't have any spars as designed, I filed notches and added them, 1/8"x1/4".

 After all that I set a few of the big pieces together to get an initial look at things. I think it even kind of looks like a Zero.  ;D
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Re: A little side project...
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2017, 08:11:51 AM »
Who was the kit manufacturer? The plans look like they could be from Sterling.
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Re: A little side project...
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2019, 08:09:57 PM »
Who was the kit manufacturer? The plans look like they could be from Sterling.

 Larry,

 Sorry I never got back to you here, been away from this one for a while. The kit box says Master Modelcraft from New York, NY. I don't know anything about that company but to me the kit seems a lot like the older Japanese kits, maybe there was a connection?

  I've been looking at the half-built Zero sitting in my shop all this time and now that the P-38 is finally done I'd like to finish this little one up, should be a hoot!
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Re: A little side project...
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2019, 05:28:16 PM »
Any chance patterns have been made of all parts? This looks like a pretty cool step up from 1/2A.

Thanks in advance,

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Re: A little side project...
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2019, 07:37:21 PM »

 Sorry no patterns, a design like this would be very easy to draw up from scratch though.
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Re: A little side project...
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2019, 09:46:59 PM »
My new project is a classic plane.
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Re: A little side project...
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2019, 10:32:59 PM »
My new project is a classic plane.

 Cool, and it's a...?   ;D
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Re: A little side project...
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2019, 10:10:04 AM »
On this prorfile, or any other, I would question the ply doubler.  Doesn't quite go back far enough.
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Re: A little side project...
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2019, 10:21:04 PM »
On this prorfile, or any other, I would question the ply doubler.  Doesn't quite go back far enough.

 I'm not using the old original fuse that had been started when I obtained the kit (the top one in the photo) . I built a new one from scratch with longer engine mount beams and a slightly longer tail moment, the lower one in the photo. It's really not a big deal on these small models but my new doublers do go back further than the original design, mainly to just look better than the originals. You'll notice the difference once I get to adding some more photos.

 I did get the leadouts done and the controls mounted in the wing tonight, a little progress at least. Next will be adding the wingtips, which I'm also making from scratch.  :)
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Re: A little side project...
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2019, 11:44:33 AM »
That's very cool, Wayne. I'm getting ready to start a new project soon also. Still bubbling in my head and on the drafting table.
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Re: A little side project...
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2019, 08:29:25 PM »

 Thanks Randy. It's just nice to work on a simple model every so often, no stress, just a fun little project.

 I'm anxious to see what's coming next out of the Powellworks.  #^
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Re: A little side project...
« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2019, 10:57:33 AM »
Looking back to the original post, I am reminded that the word "Jap" is no longer politically correct, or even condoned anymore.  It was common back during WWII, when I suppose the kit was produced.

But we did, and said,  a lot of dumb things back then.
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Re: A little side project...
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2019, 11:15:54 PM »
On this prorfile, or any other, I would question the ply doubler.  Doesn't quite go back far enough.

 Floyd,

 This shows the new fuse with 1/16" ply doublers...
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Re: A little side project...
« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2019, 12:47:03 AM »
I just saw this thread for the first time tonight. Iím totally digging this little side project. I do stuff like this all the time. Build planes that serve no real purpose but to give me something too do.
This was a very cool project. Took a half built model from an obscure kit maker and produced a flyable model from it. Thatís awesome.

Wayne, Iím going to have to come to MN sometime and check out your operation.
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Re: A little side project...
« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2019, 08:25:29 PM »

This was a very cool project. Took a half built model from an obscure kit maker and produced a flyable model from it. Thatís awesome.


 It's not actually done yet, these photos are current. Finished up making the wingtips the other night though, next will be sheeting the center section, more pics to come... ;D
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Re: A little side project...
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2019, 08:32:48 PM »

Wayne, Iím going to have to come to MN sometime and check out your operation.


 Definitely not worth a trip from California to check out my 12x14 foot "operation", but if you ever happen to be passing thru feel free to give me a shout.  ;D
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Re: A little side project...
« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2019, 12:15:31 AM »
Definitely not worth a trip from California to check out my 12x14 foot "operation", but if you ever happen to be passing thru feel free to give me a shout.  ;D

Except for the weather, CA sucks! I canít wait to retire and get out of this liberal cesspool of insane living expenses and taxes. Any trip out of California is worth it .
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Re: A little side project...
« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2019, 08:36:39 PM »

 Finished sheeting the wing center section tonight, more pics once I get it sanded.  :)
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