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Title: TF SCORE, Discontinued?
Post by: David Barber on September 25, 2011, 04:19:24 PM
Hello,

Have read the tf Score has been discontinued, How long ago did this happen?
I have been thinking of buying one,
Any one in Australia got one for sale?

Dave.
Title: Re: TF SCORE, Discontinued?
Post by: Steve Helmick on September 25, 2011, 06:10:51 PM
Not shown in the Tower ads, and they would be. They are very expensive to ship due to the size, so you might consider a Legacy or SV-11 ARC (which may be available, even tho the ARF may not be). The 2 piece wing should be cheaper to ship, and they're much better designs anyway, IMO.  Say "G'day" to Dave Simons 4 me. 010! Steve
Title: Re: TF SCORE, Discontinued?
Post by: Brian Hampton on September 25, 2011, 07:43:36 PM
David
This is an ad from the Vic Stunt newsletter that was first placed in the July edition but is still there in the latest August edition.

FOR SALE
1 only ARF Top flite “Score” new in box $250
1 only ARF Brodak “Strega” new in box $250
Pick up only
Robert NSW 0417411774
Title: Re: TF SCORE, Discontinued?
Post by: David Barber on September 27, 2011, 03:40:33 AM
Thanks for the info guys.

Dave, Victor Harbor, SA
Title: Re: TF SCORE, Discontinued?
Post by: Leester on September 30, 2011, 08:47:56 PM
I think the price of the Score was 109.00 or 99.00 just before it was discontinued, the 250.00 is outragous.
Title: Re: TF SCORE, Discontinued?
Post by: peabody on October 01, 2011, 07:50:11 PM
The prices are Australian.....probably quite reasonable...
The Brodak Pathfinder is, in my opinion, the best flying profile ARF around...
Have fun!
Title: Re: TF SCORE, Discontinued?
Post by: Sean McEntee on October 03, 2011, 08:10:32 AM
       Just a heads up to any new, proud TF Score owners.  My father had the nose COME OFF of his--motor, firewall, everything.  After careful inspection, the nose is tab-and-slot construction and held together with what almost looked like hot glue.  It only had 200 or so flights on it.  This could be why it was discontinued.  Repairs and reenforcements were made and the model is still flyable.  Be sure to add some reenforcements and give everything a good coating of epoxy to prevent failure.

Cheers,
Sean McEntee
Title: Re: TF SCORE, Discontinued?
Post by: john e. holliday on October 03, 2011, 08:35:42 AM
The first Score I seen and flew after the second rebuild/reconstruct has a pushrod come apart on first flight.  The nose came off after the second flight.   Then I think he has almost worn the plane out flying it.   It is one good flying plane that flies better than I do. H^^
Title: Re: TF SCORE, Discontinued?
Post by: David Barber on October 04, 2011, 03:43:44 AM
I do like the look of the SCORE, it seems most of ARF have a few problems,
would the ARF Nobler be a better plane?
its an older design, and in a different class I no,
Cheers David.
Title: Re: TF SCORE, Discontinued?
Post by: Joe Mig on October 04, 2011, 07:41:07 AM
Hi Dave,  :! When i wanted a Score a while back there were two members on this blog that offered to sell me theres. I passed on them but you might want too post something under wanted. H^^
Title: Re: TF SCORE, Discontinued?
Post by: John Hammonds on October 04, 2011, 09:22:09 AM
In addition to the high starting price shipping would almost certainly make it a very expensive proposition but in case it's interest to anyone "Pegasus Models" here in the UK have some in stock. I Believe the price includes taxes [20%] which I guess you may not have to pay (At least at the UK end) if shipping internationally..

http://www.pegasusmodels.co.uk/product.asp?type=submenu&id=Vintage,%20Control%20Line%20and%20Free%20Flight&maingp=Aircraft%20and%20Aircraft%20Spares&prodid=995556

TTFN
John.
Title: Re: TF SCORE, Discontinued?
Post by: Jeff Prosser on December 10, 2011, 08:16:06 PM
Hi
A word of warning for Score owners.  A friend of mine has one with only a few flights on it and the nose came off last Sat, just as described previously by Sean.  Looks like it could be a common fault.  If you have one it would be a good idea to have close look at it and reglue or reinforce the front former attachment to the rest of the plane.  Unfortunately the prop of his ST60 chomped thru the wing as it detached making for a difficult repair which may not be worth the trouble.

Jeff
Title: Re: TF SCORE, Discontinued?
Post by: Bootlegger on December 11, 2011, 06:27:01 AM
   H^^   Is this the firewall that the engine mounts are attached to??   D>K
Title: Re: TF SCORE, Discontinued?
Post by: john e. holliday on December 11, 2011, 08:27:18 AM
Not only the nose, but double check the control system. H^^
Title: Re: TF SCORE, Discontinued?
Post by: Jeff Prosser on December 11, 2011, 06:15:25 PM
Yes it is the firewall. The front former, engine mounts, engine and cowl detached from the rest of the nose. Nothing was broken, it looked as though the glue just let go. The firewall is notched to take the ply body sides which could be OK but there is not enough glue, or the wrong glue.
Title: Re: TF SCORE, Discontinued?
Post by: Joe Yau on December 12, 2011, 03:50:36 AM
Yes it is the firewall. The front former, engine mounts, engine and cowl detached from the rest of the nose. Nothing was broken, it looked as though the glue just let go. The firewall is notched to take the ply body sides which could be OK but there is not enough glue, or the wrong glue.

Could it be from fuel soak?  I sealed mine up pretty good with epoxy, as the 4-stroke are usually quite messy with the intake in the rear.
Title: Re: TF SCORE, Discontinued?
Post by: Bill Heher on January 09, 2012, 08:05:08 AM
Based on my experience you need some tri-stock and slow cure epoxy at the firewall attachment, fuel proof tank compartment, replace the pushrods and lead outs.

Mine has a ST .56, and is kind of porky from a couple repairs, but it is a nice solid flier.

All that being said, if you don't find one then look at some of Brodak's line of ARFs. I like the Oriental, have had 2 and still have one to finish. I've flown the Smoothie and a couple of the profiles, all are good fliers when bAlanced/trimmed.
Title: Re: TF SCORE, Discontinued?
Post by: BrianW517 on July 11, 2012, 10:57:51 PM
  H^^  ~^ I had a TF Score once,  ??? Powered by a OS LA .46, and it pull tested great on it's 50th+ flight,  Z@@ZZZ and smash!  LL~ the bellcrank broke loose from it's mount,  n~ and did a wing over,  :o and went straight into terra firma!  n1 and exploaded into peices!  :'( my last ARF  HB~>  mw~ I only build from ARC's, and or Boxes of stix, from from now on,  #^ and with a scratch plan build, once in awhile.  S?P  % H^^
Title: Re: TF SCORE, Discontinued?
Post by: Joseph Lijoi on July 12, 2012, 10:45:36 AM
 H^^  ~^ I had a TF Score once,  ??? Powered by a OS LA .46, and it pull tested great on it's 50th+ flight,  Z@@ZZZ and smash!  LL~ the bellcrank broke loose from it's mount,  n~ and did a wing over,  :o and went straight into terra firma!  n1 and exploaded into peices!  :'( my last ARF  HB~>  mw~ I only build from ARC's, and or Boxes of stix, from from now on,  #^ and with a scratch plan build, once in awhile.  S?P  % H^^

All things being equal 500+ flights or like 25 gallons of fuel is not to bad of an outcome for $125 and 8 hours of work.
Title: Re: TF SCORE, Discontinued?
Post by: MarcusCordeiro on October 03, 2012, 08:18:59 PM
You know

A few weeks ago I saw the nose of one TF ARF Nobler coming toward me with no plane attached...
Maybe it's not only a problem with scores, but with ARFs.
I like the Pathfinder very much, but don't think I'll go ARF again...
The covering has been coming off everywhere. >:(

Marcus
Title: Re: TF SCORE, Discontinued?
Post by: BrianW517 on October 05, 2012, 01:00:30 AM
All things being equal 500+ flights or like 25 gallons of fuel is not to bad of an outcome for $125 and 8 hours of work.
                 H^^  D>K 49 1/2 flights. Flight 50 was only three laps,  <= then wham!  n~ flight not completed,  LL~  H^^
Title: Re: TF SCORE, Discontinued?
Post by: Joseph Lijoi on December 03, 2012, 10:35:16 AM
                 H^^  D>K 49 1/2 flights. Flight 50 was only three laps,  <= then wham!  n~ flight not completed,  LL~  H^^

Sorry.  My bad.  Things need to be done to ARFs to get them to work, but I still like the idea. 
Title: Re: TF SCORE, Discontinued?
Post by: Bill Heher on August 14, 2014, 08:07:57 PM
If anyone is interested, there is a NIB Score on Craigslist in SW Portland, OR for $100' as of 8/13/14.
Title: Re: TF SCORE, Discontinued?
Post by: Paul Smith on August 14, 2014, 09:25:10 PM
I think the price of the Score was 109.00 or 99.00 just before it was discontinued, the 250.00 is outrageous.

The Cox Little Stinker was originally $7.95.
Now $235 on Ebay for a virgin.
Better to buy on the first go-round.
Title: Re: TF SCORE, Discontinued?
Post by: Avaiojet on August 15, 2014, 06:14:32 AM
If anyone is interested, there is a NIB Score on Craigslist in SW Portland, OR for $100' as of 8/13/14.

Kit, not ARF.

http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/tad/4609503788.html
Title: Re: TF SCORE, Discontinued?
Post by: Avaiojet on August 15, 2014, 06:31:33 AM
The prices are Australian.....probably quite reasonable...
The Brodak Pathfinder is, in my opinion, the best flying profile ARF around...
Have fun!

Peabody,

The Pathfinder is a great flying ARF! I think I purchased Brodak's last one. Funny the model was discontinued.

I flew the Pathfinder a couple of weeks ago, first flight. Needs some changes/trimming which I did. I'll fly it tomorrow and see how she does.

Only real change was the two wheel aluminum gear instead of tri gear. OS LA 46 powered.

 I did not enjoy any part of the assembly. In fact, it was a struggle because of lack of interest.

However, now that the model is built I feel a bit different about it. Fun to fly!

No real loss if you roll them in and I'll probably grab another ARF for my pattern work.

Great for learning the pattern, or just getting it back.






Title: Re: TF SCORE, Discontinued?
Post by: Bill Heher on September 17, 2014, 12:02:44 AM
Kit, not ARF.

http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/tad/4609503788.html
the Score was always an ARF, no kit available fro TFthat I ever herd of, and I have / had 3 different ones.