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Title: One Dollah!
Post by: Alan Hahn on August 07, 2008, 12:04:17 PM
How to change an ARF to an ARC!  :!
Title: Re: One Dollah!
Post by: Dennis Vander Kuur on August 07, 2008, 02:03:33 PM
Alan,
Are you guys smiling because you've just converted an ARF to an ARC for "One Dollah!" or, as I suspect, because you still have almost a full pitcher of beer left on the table  #^ n~ LL~ VD~ H^^.
Dennis
Title: Re: One Dollah!
Post by: Alan Hahn on August 07, 2008, 03:02:11 PM
A little of both!
Title: Re: One Dollah!
Post by: Steve Helmick on August 08, 2008, 11:19:51 PM
Who's who? Nice to put a face n~ with the name, ya know!  LL~ Steve

Title: Re: One Dollah!
Post by: Crist Rigotti on August 09, 2008, 07:17:49 AM
Alan is on the left in the blue shirt and Fred Kreuger in on the right.
Title: Re: One Dollah!
Post by: Alan Hahn on August 11, 2008, 10:19:29 AM
That's right, Fred is on the right holding the $1 and the fuse wondering if he can still scotch the deal! I'm getting ready to grab the fuse and run!
Title: Re: One Dollah!--some undressed weights!
Post by: Alan Hahn on August 19, 2008, 01:54:53 PM
I got around to weighing the parts of the Vector ARC.

Including the wheel pants (1.25oz) the total comes to 27 1/2 oz. My Top Flite Nobler ARF (with covering) that I converted to electric power weighed in at 26.3oz before gluing up.  I plan to use plastic covering of some type (I was considering Mica Film since I like the way it looks) so I am not too sure what the total weight gain might be. The Nobler ended up at ~44oz with charged battery included, and I expect more weight with the Vector simply because I think it will need a larger pack to complete the pattern. Otherwise I plan to use the same electric ESC and motor as the E-Nobler. First try will be with two 3s2100mAHr packs in parallel (10.6 oz vs the 7 oz for the E-Nobler and a 1020kV Scorpion 3020-12 motor (this is the identical package I started in the E-Nobler). I am pretty sure it will be adequate.
Title: Re: One Dollah!
Post by: Archie Adamisin on August 29, 2008, 08:49:05 AM
Alan,

I am glad to see that your E-Vector is moving forward.  I agree with your thoughts on Mica film.  It looks great and adds a tremendous amount of strength.

We are currently flying an ARF Brodak Vector using the same Brodak SC motor and battery that I use in the E-Oriental.  It flies great with that power system using the 10 x 5 prop and 63' lines.  I feel it would be better to go to a 4S 2500 and 1000-1100 Kv motor to lighten up the system and use an 11 x 5.5 prop.  The Vector really likes to fly @ 5.0-5.2sec/lap on the 63' lines.

I look forward to hearing your results with the Scorpion motor & 3S battery.  I was very impressed with the power and quality of Crist's Scorpion motor in his barnstormer.  After seeing the motor in person, I understand why they are a great choice of quality ECL motor.

My Uncle Dennis' Swinger used a Rim-Fire 35-36-1200 and a 4S Flight Power 2500 pack on 61' lines @ a 5.1 lap time.  His flight used only 1800 Mah for the pattern which includes 20 laps after the pattern (6:00 timer).  The E-Oriental 3S for the entire pattern on 63' with the Hublin timer uses 2400 mah @ 5.3sec/lap.  On 60' lines & the same 5.3 lap time on the Oriental only uses 1800 mah.  My timer is set for 5:35 which gives me 4-6 laps after the clover.   

Archie Adamisin
Muncie, Indiana   
Title: Re: One Dollah!
Post by: Steve Helmick on September 11, 2008, 10:54:10 PM
Alan is on the left in the blue shirt and Fred Kreuger in on the right.

Thanks for identifying the perps! I never would have guessed that was Alan, or Bob, even though we're
"Fuzzy Brothers"!  LL~ Steve