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Offline Ron Merrill

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ARF Strega
« on: December 18, 2006, 01:08:17 PM »
I talked with Windy on Friday and the Strega's are in. Mine is on the way. How much i don't know, i was on his list and the bill is with the plane. I believe Brodak now has some and it will be quite a while before the next batch reaches the USA. I am sure more info can be gotten by calling Brodak, Windy or maybe even Bob Z. Ron. y1 <= #^

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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2006, 01:51:14 PM »
Hi Ron,

What power train are you going to use?  Since Kent Tysor has been fly his Strega for quite a while now (three different ones, IIRC) I have seen it under go "system" changes.  ST 60 to Ro-Jett 76/pipe.
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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2006, 04:18:58 PM »
I believe that Strega ARFs from Winfred are $149.95 plus $30.00 shipping...send him a check,,,the supply is limited.
Around these parts one of the prototypes has around 100 flights on it....and the committee encountered a few trim issues....but resolved them.
Windy built his in a day....powered by an RO .76. He flew it twice today and says that he has to do some work with a prop....
That's my story and I'm sticking to it....

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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2006, 08:56:39 AM »
Bill, will use a GMA/Jett .60se to start and see what happens.  I am waiting to here from Windy on his testing. It will be on DVD if anyone is interested. Peabody i like your story and i will stick with it two. Sure hope to see more feedback on how it does, then i can just follow the bounceing ball. Ron AP^

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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2006, 01:26:42 PM »
No flights on Tuesday...

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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2006, 04:15:13 PM »
Here are two flying examples...the yellow critter is Tiger 60 powered and the white RO Jett 76....

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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2006, 05:04:10 PM »
I've seen pics of the blue now the yellow and white. So far the white is the best looking, Iwould like to see the red.
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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2006, 05:09:34 PM »
The air racer STREGA had a White with red and blue color scheme...

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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2006, 07:22:57 PM »
What does everyone think about Tigre G51 power for this Strega ARF.
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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2006, 07:36:04 PM »
Wayne:
The two that are pictured are 66 and 68 ounces...and the wing is real, real thick and draggy.....a ST 51 would be doing some work, but I'll bet that it would be okay..

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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2006, 08:26:30 PM »
I agree, ST.51 would really be working on a ARF. Has anybody weighted the ARF Strega?

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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2006, 08:37:17 PM »
Ron...the two in the picture are ARFs....

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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2006, 11:42:42 AM »
peabody, what do you think of the Rojett .76? Ron #^

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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2006, 12:32:13 PM »

the biggest engine I have is a Saito 56. I wonder if it would have enough oomph for the Strega? I have it in a Time Machine with 660 sq. in wing and it has a little reserve left but one hundred more squares I don’t know.
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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2006, 12:44:30 PM »
Not only 60 sq. in. more but those square inches are very thick, too.

I think the wing is about 3 inches thick at the root.

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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2006, 02:57:10 PM »
I be;ieve that Windy has flown the original model with a Saito 56....and found that the 72 was better...

There are a couple RO Jett 76's flying around here....all owners are happy as if they had sense....

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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2006, 07:59:01 PM »
the biggest engine I have is a Saito 56. I wonder if it would have enough oomph for the Strega? I have it in a Time Machine with 660 sq. in wing and it has a little reserve left but one hundred more squares I don’t know.
Willis     ???

Well Willis, one solution would be for you to buy a Saito 62 or 72.... >:D

I can give you the new K&B 61 ABC I got off of Tate as well.  Its not like I've done anything with it.... :-[  I bet the K&B would pull the Strega fine, and you KNOW Tate wants to order one!!!!!!!!

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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2006, 08:01:07 PM »
the biggest engine I have is a Saito 56. I wonder if it would have enough oomph for the Strega? I have it in a Time Machine with 660 sq. in wing and it has a little reserve left but one hundred more squares I don’t know.
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30% nitro helicopter fuel!  either the 56 would pull the Strega or it would explode!  Either outcome would be exciting....... %^
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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2006, 02:05:06 AM »
30% nitro helicopter fuel!  either the 56 would pull the Strega or it would explode!  Either outcome would be exciting....... %^

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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2006, 03:48:20 PM »
My Strega order showed up today, man did Brodak get it right. The controls are fantastic and even the hinge slots are inset. This is not your average ARF, these things with proper power can be competitive at any level right out of the box.

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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2006, 03:45:57 PM »
Got mine today, everything is great but the covering job on the fus could have been a little better, oh well it's better than what I've done. In the supplimental instr. I see they advise spraying Lustre Kote clear on the covering joints to keep from coming loose. Very nice ARF
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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2006, 04:44:50 AM »
These critters come in BIG boxes....I got two ARCs yesterday and the package could have been a coffin for my second ex wife! Lots of care that UPS doesn't mangle them....

I also watched the Windy video last night....it's very informative and lots/most of the information is applicable to all ARFs.

There are some terrific features here....certainly worth the price...and there a few things that I plan to change....all in all, it appears to be the best of the bunch....

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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2006, 08:19:26 AM »
It still amazes me that John can get these made for just a little more than a kit would sell for.  Also talking to him at the NATS last year(2006) he is very interested in his products and how to improve them.  Keep us posted on how the Strega flies.  Back to work on the P-39.  DOC Holliday
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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2006, 09:14:41 AM »
Wished someone would post what (if any) changes they are making. I didn't see anything in the ARC I examined that needed changing other than replacing the hinges and maybe whatever it takes to install the engine. Oh ya, looks like the nose ring needs to be cut off and attached to the cowl so you can get a 6 1/2 ounce tank in from the front.

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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2006, 12:52:54 PM »
The Supplimental says install from the rear (cut former) and fill with scrap.
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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2006, 01:32:38 PM »
I JUST RECEIVED MY ARC STRAGA .I AM REALY IMPRESSED.THE ONLY CRITISUN I HAVE
 IS THE LEADING EDGE IS TO SHARP BUT A LITTLE SANDING SHOULD TAKE CARE OF
THAT.I FINELY HAVE A EASY WAY OF USING MY ST 60.THANKS JOHN.
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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2006, 02:53:34 PM »
The Supplimental says install from the rear (cut former) and fill with scrap.

But then you can't get the tank out after the wing is installed.

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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2006, 04:10:31 PM »
It says to remove tank cut the nose ring in half. lol
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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #28 on: December 30, 2006, 09:05:03 AM »
Could we have some reports on how the plane is flying with different power plants and how you are finding the trimming developing?

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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #29 on: December 30, 2006, 09:42:15 AM »
It says to remove tank cut the nose ring in half. lol

That is funny.. I didn't look at the instructions and one of our club members (Tom Martin) came up with the idea of cutting the nose ring in half and attaching it to the cowl.

We should have two flying fairly shortly, one with an RO Jett 61 and one with a ST 60. The ST 60 one (Joe Gilbert) will be in the air first, Tom Martins (RO Jett) may take a while.

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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #30 on: December 30, 2006, 09:45:30 AM »
Anyone using a rear exhaust set-up?

Thanks,

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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #31 on: December 30, 2006, 10:02:08 AM »
Anyone using a rear exhaust set-up?

Thanks,

Jim

Ya Windy, understand he has a video showing how he did it...

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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #32 on: December 30, 2006, 11:00:54 AM »
Sounds like I'll have to get that video, I've got a T&L ST 60 for mine when I'm ready for it. Joe at SS had such a good price and free shipping I couldn't pass it up.
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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #33 on: December 30, 2006, 12:03:17 PM »
Just finished looking at the two DVD's Windy sent me. Changes Windy made or reccomends are radius l/e,use cf tow on ball links and epoxy top and bottom nuts on bellcrank,motor offset 5/16",replace flaps with 1/4" 4lb. stock flat sheet/radiused edges, Rabe rudder (personal choice), tape all hinge lines. he is using RO/Jett RE .76/ 14x5 Rev-Up, 68',.018's. He says front lead out runs when l/o's to far back. If possible remove peice it rubs on (ARC). Need 1/2" longer gear when using 14" prop. Windy has got the weight down from 65oz. to 62oz., he now is using one of his CF spinners. Hope this helps, i am getting more DVD's as they become available. I will be happy to share them. Ron y1 #^ SORRY meant to say elevators with 1/4" not flaps, and word is rub not runs on lead outs. HB~> HB~>

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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #34 on: December 30, 2006, 12:38:26 PM »
Hey,

I don't understand the "motor offset 5/16 inch" part.  Could you explain for those of us that are dense?
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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #35 on: December 30, 2006, 01:06:13 PM »
Thanks for sharing Ron Merrill.
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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #36 on: December 30, 2006, 01:21:47 PM »
Jim, Windy, started with 2oz. tip wt. and 1/8" offset and now he is at i think 1 1/2oz. and the 5/16" offset. He is running a small tab on the outboard wing. There are out flying as we speak. Several were to meet with ARF Strega's today. Hope this helps. Ron. #^

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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #37 on: December 30, 2006, 02:26:14 PM »
I'm with Jim, what does 5/16 relate to.. Engine offset at prop tips on a 14 inch prop???

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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #38 on: December 30, 2006, 03:24:49 PM »
This is for those who don't have one and to see how my resizing worked.
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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #39 on: December 30, 2006, 03:30:33 PM »
Bob, you are spot on. Measured using same tip. Sorry for the fuzzy info. HB~> Ron.

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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #40 on: December 30, 2006, 03:40:23 PM »
Heres some more:
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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #41 on: December 30, 2006, 05:52:36 PM »
I have a Strega on the way and I wonder with all these different engines everyone is using, what is the spacing between the engine mounts?
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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #42 on: December 30, 2006, 06:09:42 PM »
Between the mounts is 1 7/16"
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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #43 on: January 06, 2007, 02:35:30 PM »
I received my ARC Strega Yesterday Its a big airplane at least too me. Steve Fitton was nice enough to lend me a Brodak K&B 61 to use which I have started to mount with aluminum plates. There is a few holes that I plain to close up one for the tank to slide through and one in the cowl, if not the fuselage will fill up with oil. My biggest problem before I go any farther is what color do I want ? The mail system did a number on the out side box lucky they pack it as good as they did No damage to the air plane itself. Any one know how much fuel the ABC K&B uses for the pattern?
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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #44 on: January 06, 2007, 04:19:19 PM »
For those who may be interested,

All the contents of my Strega ARF came to 46.5 oz--just as the parts came from the box, with protective plastic sleeves removed.

Still wondering if anyone is doing the rear exhaust set-up?

Thanks,

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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #45 on: January 06, 2007, 05:00:33 PM »
Jim

Yes Windy and several others have done rear exhaust w/ mufflers. Just go after the insides with a dremel.

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« Reply #46 on: January 07, 2007, 12:18:31 PM »
Jim, here is a couple of pics of Windy's
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« Reply #47 on: January 07, 2007, 12:43:56 PM »
There have been a few asked and sent emails to me about the RE set up for the Strega. Previous post was showing the plane and engine after completion. I have been asked if the header muffler is just a header with a plug in the back. It is not and I am posting the pics of how I build one. I make the internals based on the engine size since all of the engines from 51 to 76 are in the same case basically (the 76 and 67 are taller only) and I use the same header for all of them. I have a special header made that is a larger diameter, 7/8 OD. I then cnc the internals and construct the header muffler. If someone has special needs and I need to alter the bends I can also do that within reason.  I can make a 45° bend in the back end so that an exhaust diverter is not needed. I just sent one to Windy to test in his Strega. I have made several for Windy to test and rest assure they will work in the Strega or Windy will not sign off on them nor will I. I am testing them as well in my ARF Strega. We are working to have a turn key set up for you guys. I am also testing side exhaust and feel it is just as good but not for end of the day clean up. My header/muffler will also fit a PA 51, 61, 65 and I am not sure about the 75. Randy has a header muffler as well but I have no test data on it and neither does Windy.

The pic of the internals show two incerts. Small one is for a 40/51 and the large one is for the 67/76
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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #48 on: January 07, 2007, 09:19:53 PM »
Thanks Richard,

That looks like what I need to use on my RJ 76 in the Strega ARF.

PM on the way to you.

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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #49 on: January 08, 2007, 11:59:52 AM »
What's the preferred tank set up in this bird.  The Brodak kit mentions the BH-563 tank; Wide Wedge Uniflow (All Tubes Forward) as a 6 oz. solution.  1"H x 2"W x 6" L.  If there is room perhaps the BH-564 (6.5 oz's) or BH-565 (7 oz.) tanks might be made to work.  These each increase in length by 1/2 inch to 6.5' and 7" inches respectively.  Power choice for mine will be ST-60.  Comments?

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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #50 on: January 08, 2007, 04:21:11 PM »
The tank compartment in the Strega is 1¼" tall and 2½" wide. 6½" is about the max length of the tank with "random" all-forward-facing tubing. A tank built for a specific engine with tubing routed for clearance could probably be 7" long, maybe 7¼" (this would be a real squeeze).
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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #51 on: January 08, 2007, 07:20:21 PM »
I believe that Brodak amkes the "Magnum" tank in 6 1/2 and 7 ounce flavors...just the feed tube exits to the front.
The uniflow and vent exit down then loop up to above top of tank....

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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #52 on: January 09, 2007, 02:03:58 PM »
RO, show pictures of the header/muffler you made for Windy to test with the bend to clear the bottom of the Strega ARF. It really is a nice clean setup for the .76re. y1 Ron.

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« Reply #53 on: January 13, 2007, 04:18:53 PM »
I made this for Windy to test this week. The thought is to do away with the exhaust diverter(.5 ounce) and the cost. We will be testing more soon but Windy's weather is going away and he might not get back out for a while.
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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #54 on: January 14, 2007, 07:39:22 AM »
Just thinking out loud here.  Re: Wing leading edge profile.  Has anyone contacted John Brodak about their findings regarding the sharp leading edge issue?  Is it possible they might update the production runs to include the rounded leading edge on later runs of the ARF Strega kits? This may have already been put into the works perhaps seeing as Windy has helped develope the product by some degree. (A large degree I'd guess).

Also, thanks for the tank info.  I'd all put forgotten about the Magnuim style tanks.  They may be just the ticket to get the max. fuel on board.


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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #55 on: January 14, 2007, 08:03:56 AM »
Windy's DVD's  show them making his leading edge more blunt. I'm sure JB knows all about it.
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Re: ARF Strega
« Reply #56 on: January 15, 2007, 08:58:50 PM »
Hi Everyojne,

   I had my maided flights yesterday with the ARF Strega. Set up as follows:Clamp mounts for

RO Jett .76 Se with RO Jett Muffler, Rev Up 14x6 prop. 6 oz metal unfilow tank no muffler pressure.

1 1/2 oz tip weight , my own 1/8 inch landing gear 1/2 inch longer  with gear doors. 64x.018 braided

lines with my Large handle 4" spacing. Blunted leading edge with original covering put back on with balsarite.

taped hinglines flaps and elevators.Omega 5% fuel with 1 oz of Aero 1 and 4 oz of klotz. 67OZ.

Flies very well , easy to fly great turns .In fact it flies as well as anything I have ever had. I am an

advanced flyer 450-475 scores. I believe the key is 14" prop. You can use these if you thin them out

on the blades and use 15% Nitro on St .60 (non -restrictive muffler ,lots of Castor) 14x6 or more pitch.

You will have to run them slower 7400-7800 with the big prop but try it  you might like it. If you do not thin the

prop blades then it will be too much load on the St .60 . I bet it would work with the Merco 61 AND K&B

.61 also. Gid Adkisson with his Laser 200 used this set up with the ST .60 .the ;Laser weighhed 80 + oz

and had a 740 sq in wing . The Strega has a 740 sq in wing and will weigh less than 70 oz.

      I am pleasantly  surprised at how well this plane flies , not shocked as it has the big thick wing with lots

of square inches . BUT this means use a large prop..... If you try ot use a sick .60 with 12" prop it will be

not very good , 13" would be better 13.5 or 14" even better. I have cut down some Top Flite Power Point

14x6 props to 13.5 and thinned them I will try them if they work I believe they will be the ticked for the Merco,

K&B , St .60. I have a friend  who claims the Merco will swing the 14" no problem. Also another friend

John Wright used thinned 14" props on his Merco 60 s.  Best ARF yet. I will be using it for a test bed for

RO Jett .76, Saito .62 AND Stalker .81.  Walter Hicks

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« Reply #57 on: January 20, 2007, 06:50:17 AM »
Wished someone would post what (if any) changes they are making. I didn't see anything in the ARC I examined that needed changing other than replacing the hinges and maybe whatever it takes to install the engine. Oh ya, looks like the nose ring needs to be cut off and attached to the cowl so you can get a 6 1/2 ounce tank in from the front.

It's a well-thought-out ARF - - Reasonable weight, good construction, excellent (Tom Morris) controls, fair covering (although better than I can do with Monokote. I am making only 3 changes:

1) The flaps are very "whippy" so I stripped the Monokote and re-skinned them with 1/32" plywood. Weight went way up but stiffness went up more.
2) Supplied hinges move roughly, so I substituted DuBro hinges
3) I added the Brodak (Windy) Engine Clamp Mounts so I could try different engines with a minimum of bother

First engine will be a YS .63FZ-S. I also plan to try the Saito .56 and .72, just to see. I asked Eric at RSM to make a couple of special tanks for this project, and I'll probably start with the 7 oz. version and hold the 5½ oz. tank in reserve. If the YS proves to be the "engine of choice" the smaller tank should be adequate.

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« Reply #58 on: January 20, 2007, 07:56:55 AM »
Please keep us appraised of the YS performance. In RC they are used for their very high power for size qualities but are usually running fairly fast.

You will want to round that leading edge more than the way it comes. Its pretty pointy and testing has shown it flies alot better with a blunt leading edge as the original had.

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« Reply #59 on: January 20, 2007, 09:49:58 AM »
Bob, where did you get the 3/4" extension for your Saito .72. I have a .72 i may put in my Strega ARF  ??? Ron.

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« Reply #60 on: January 20, 2007, 04:36:51 PM »
Ron

I responding after the personal email I sent you. I decided to follow Windy's advice and forgoe the shaft extention and lop the nose off instead. Basic reason was concern for prop security without a Jam nut. Anyway, since I was going to do a 3/4 inch shaft extension, I cut 3/4 inch of the nose instead. I marked in actually about .70 inches from the nose ring. The result was pretty good and just very nice in its result. It winds up being an absolutely perfect fit to a 2 1/4 inch spinner there. The top block still is intact and without a gap to fill in. AND... take a look at the resulting pic after cutting the cowling that I had already trimmed for the Saito at the same distance back... A scale mustang nose scoop! I think its a better way to go. This way standard spinners are not an issue, and you have the jam nut.  Everything else remains the same. Balance wise it looks like its going to come in balpark. I'll ad some reinforcement to the cowl lip but I think this is probably a better answer than trying to deal with a 4 stroke with a shaft extension.

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« Reply #61 on: January 20, 2007, 08:43:36 PM »
Hi Bob,
Thanks for the pix. I actually think it looks totally better than stock. I would like to see a picture of the engine when you get it mounted. I don't have a 4-stroke for this ship but I always find it interesting to see how modelers get around all the little problems that pop up. Keep us posted.....Grins
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« Reply #62 on: January 20, 2007, 11:09:12 PM »
Please keep us appraised of the YS performance. In RC they are used for their very high power for size qualities but are usually running fairly fast.

You will want to round that leading edge more than the way it comes. Its pretty pointy and testing has shown it flies alot better with a blunt leading edge as the original had.

bob branch

Too late on rounding the LE; that's why I got an ARF this time and plan to keep it that way. I turned the TF Score into an ARC with 40 hours of sanding and re-covering, and I'll never do that again.

As far as rounding the LE more, I wonder if applying thread "turbulaters" about ½" back from the LE might serve the same purpose as rounding????

(Too many irons; not enough fire)

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« Reply #63 on: January 21, 2007, 05:14:06 AM »
Ralph...
Dong the leading edge is really quite quick and inexpensive....
Cut the film covering 1/2" above and below the center (sharp part)......round so that it is as blunt as you can make it.......touch some CA to the thin parts, and put a 1 1/4" wide piece of "trim" type monocoat (the kind that has a real sticky backing and doesn't require heat)....and go fl it...the process took my fired about 45 minutes, and that included a lot of self congratulations.....

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« Reply #64 on: January 21, 2007, 07:21:04 AM »
Ralph

Turbulators act more to delay a stall. I don't believe that is the issue with the rounder leading edge. Someone may want to correct me if I'm wrong.

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« Reply #65 on: January 31, 2007, 03:30:22 PM »
I went flying with Jimmy Welch the other day and while he was flying his ARF Tutor the bell crank pulled out. The mounting system was OK but they had only glued  one side. That got me thinking about my ARC Strega I went home and cut a hole in the bottom of the wing so I could get some glue on the bell crank mounts top and bottom, The bottom nut was a little lose glued that. and the lead out was catching on the rib in certain conditions , cut the rib down some to cure that problem. The wing and stab are ready to glue in, just have too block the tank compartment off from the wing area. Jimmy brought his new 830 sq. in. stunt plane with a LA 65 over to the house tonight and it immediately attacked my Strega.
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« Reply #66 on: January 31, 2007, 04:16:56 PM »
Either my new airplane thought there was a streamer on your strega or there may be a smaller model on the way  lol................
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« Reply #67 on: February 01, 2007, 06:08:46 AM »
Willis, Jim - what will you name the offspring???

           Stregalina?

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« Reply #68 on: February 01, 2007, 08:54:43 AM »
excelent name choice bob...have to consider that.gotta fly it first though LOL...jim Stregasaurus seems possible too....
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« Reply #69 on: February 01, 2007, 06:12:34 PM »
830 Square inches?  Welch built a sky Buick!! DV^^

Does it have a provision to attach a JATO bottle to it for help on takeoff and the reverse wingover??? y1


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« Reply #70 on: February 01, 2007, 06:14:08 PM »
Willis, Jim - what will you name the offspring???

           Stregalina?

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Damien?   VD~
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« Reply #71 on: February 02, 2007, 05:47:09 PM »
Ralph...
Dong the leading edge is really quite quick and inexpensive....
Cut the film covering 1/2" above and below the center (sharp part)......round so that it is as blunt as you can make it.......touch some CA to the thin parts, and put a 1 1/4" wide piece of "trim" type monocoat (the kind that has a real sticky backing and doesn't require heat)....and go fl it...the process took my fired about 45 minutes, and that included a lot of self congratulations.....

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OK, Rich, you were right. It took far longer to convince myself to round the LE than to actually do it - - About 5 minutes with a razor plane and 15 minutes with sandpaper; and it looks much better. Thanks for pushing me.
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« Reply #72 on: February 02, 2007, 06:52:42 PM »
Any one using a 60 size engine in the Strega having a tail heavy problem? I have my ARC together now with no covering and a K&B 61up front with no muffler or tank it balances just about right.It's going to be close.
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« Reply #73 on: February 05, 2007, 07:52:13 PM »
Strega ARF #1 RO JETT .76 SE.

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« Reply #74 on: February 05, 2007, 09:17:15 PM »
Joe Gilbert put in a few more flights on his ST-60 powered Strega last weekend but is still working on getting the trim just right.

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« Reply #75 on: February 08, 2007, 01:08:27 PM »
I’m coming along slowly on my ARC Strega I have made a few changes like cutting 5 inches of the flaps and making the end of them adjustable on both tips. I made new 1/8 inch landing gear I thought the stock gear were to thick and would break their mounts in grass landings filed in the hole for the tank inside the fuselage filled in the hole in the bottom of the cowl marked in black in the picture. Moved the push rod hole in a quarter of an inch on the bell crank to cut down on the control a little. I filled in between the hinges on the elevator with Monokote. I have no idea what paint scheme I will use, all I know is the tail is going to be Orange and the wing is Blue

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« Reply #76 on: February 14, 2007, 07:01:57 PM »
What CG location is working for you guys?

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« Reply #77 on: February 17, 2007, 05:20:23 AM »
I am at 6.75 inches from back of trailing edge of wing not counting the flap at fuselage.  Seven inches is a good place to start.
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« Reply #78 on: April 24, 2007, 04:53:30 PM »
Hi guys

Can someone explain how the 5/16" engine offset is measured?

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« Reply #79 on: April 24, 2007, 06:31:41 PM »
Hi Warren,

See reply 34 thru 39 for some details---as I understand it (I haven't done mine yet), with a 14 inch prop, the distance from the prop tip to the L.E. of the outboard wing is 5/16" less than the distance from the SAME prop tip to the inboard wing L.E., both measured with the prop horizontal.

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« Reply #80 on: May 03, 2007, 05:55:42 AM »
There was a comment on taping all hinge lines. What is the accepeted best tape that can be used?
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« Reply #81 on: May 03, 2007, 06:27:09 AM »
There was a comment on taping all hinge lines. What is the accepeted best tape that can be used?
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Hi Wayne,

3M makes Scotch Brand Crystal Clear which is what I've been told is the stuff to use.

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« Reply #82 on: May 03, 2007, 04:35:12 PM »
I went to an art supply store and found some  1" clear tape that is sorta pricey , but that works well.... 

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« Reply #83 on: September 28, 2007, 12:45:45 PM »
Got mine together.
Was adviced to increase rudder size when using 14" prop's and .76 engine.
49oz ex tank and engine.
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