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Offline Miguel Poduje

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Twin or multi engine plans
« on: April 02, 2021, 10:49:23 PM »
Hi.
I'm looking for twin or multiengine plans for 1/2 A engines.
I like profiled semi scale models and now I am looking for a multi engine model.
I've tried looking for the sterling p-38's  plans but only found parts in outerzone.

Thank you very much and please take care

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Re: Twin or multi engine plans
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2021, 09:13:52 AM »
Hip pocket aeronautics has the complete plan and templates. you have to register to down load but they don't sent spam and it is a safe site.

https://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/hpa_plans/details.php?image_id=10874

The Bell YFM-1 Airacuda is pretty neat at

 https://outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=8208

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Re: Twin or multi engine plans
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2021, 10:13:07 PM »
The 1/2A Sterling P-38 has been reproduced by Dave Cowell of DPC Models/AeroWerkes. I know he was taking some time off, but is starting to cut kits again.
You want to look at his Short Release Kits (SRKs), which are short kits with plywood wheel blanks, plywood bellcrank, and square stick leading edges.
I have one, and it is pretty faithful to the original.
What kind of engines are you planning on? Reed or rotary valve? Scale, semi-scale, or sport? Built up or all profile, slab wing?
I'm a sucker for twins, and have been collecting plans.
This is twin Norvel .074s.

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Re: Twin or multi engine plans
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2021, 01:06:34 PM »
Then there is AMA plan #508 B-25 Mitchell, with video of one flying on a 1/2A video from California. I have traffic from the builder regarding this one. I'll try to find the YouTube video.

And I love the Brown-Novitnik Mosquito at 26" for twin Babe Bees. I can add the link to both on RCGroups...the BN Mossie includes a rough plans sheet. My own rendition of this one is at 23" with twin Cox PeeWees (Dave Cowell DPCModels first-run prototype). I can supply a picture and links to the he RCGroups build).

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Re: Twin or multi engine plans
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2021, 01:29:06 PM »
Pat King ,PDK LLC has a P-38 Laser cut kit for 1/2 A. and bigger .Check him out on the Vendors on this forum. He has lots of scale kits.

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Re: Twin or multi engine plans
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2021, 05:56:07 PM »
I started to build a Black Hawk XF-5F Skyrocket, but decided it was too small so I up-scaled it about 20%.  It worked well.

In the kit, they use a simple 1/8" balsa wing, which is not NEAR enough to keep two engines together.

The prototype is chronically tail heavy as several modelers learned.

I got NO satisfaction with TeeDee .020's.  Black Widows were good. TeeDee .049's were and still are, the BEST.
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Re: Twin or multi engine plans
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2021, 06:05:00 PM »
Just a word about running a Cox reed with the cylinder ahead of the prop, they get hot!


Motorman 8)

Not mention possible reed damage and NOT using the internal bushing as designed.
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Re: Twin or multi engine plans
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2021, 08:44:13 PM »
The Mitchell:

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Re: Twin or multi engine plans
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2021, 06:47:08 AM »
If I build another 1/2A twin I will include a fuel shutoff to avoid the single engine part at the end of the flight.  Measuring fuel seldom works well enough.

I would say, skip the idea of finding plans and just scale something that you and the judges will like.
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Re: Twin or multi engine plans
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2021, 11:24:12 AM »
     That's me flying my B-25 in the video. It was built 26 years ago from Model Aviation plans for our club 1/2A contest.
  I changed the ribs to a symmetrical airfoil so it will fly upside down.Two Cox reed valve .049's are plenty of power.
     It was covered in silk but over time it got brittle and cracked. So recovered it with polyspan and repainted it.
    Haven't flown it yet since the repaint.
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Re: Twin or multi engine plans
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2021, 03:10:27 PM »
   I am using two 8cc fuel tanks on the back of the motors. 1/2 A reed valves don't have a lot of fuel draw
 so a single tank would be a challenge.
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Re: Twin or multi engine plans
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2021, 03:47:48 PM »
   I am using two 8cc fuel tanks on the back of the motors. 1/2 A reed valves don't have a lot of fuel draw
 so a single tank would be a challenge.
                  Bill

I agree.  Two reedies on a common tank won't work. 

But maybe piping both air vents to a common inlet would make a way to stop them both within a reasonable time. 
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Re: Twin or multi engine plans
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2021, 04:35:47 PM »
  I always start the outboard motor first so it quits first. In the video of my B-25 one motor quit early.
That video flight was the first flight in several years on those motors. What I found is 1/2A's need to be run
often for good motor runs.
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Re: Twin or multi engine plans
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2021, 09:15:56 PM »
 If you search through Pat's kit offerings here you'll find some very high quality designs.  y1

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Re: Twin or multi engine plans
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2021, 12:53:56 PM »
The guys have offered some wonderful suggestions and I'd like to offer mine, if I may.  I fell for the Grumman Widgeon and can suggest the plan, if you'd like.

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Re: Twin or multi engine plans
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2021, 04:36:35 PM »
My A26A Counter Invader is an award winning profile scale 1/2A airplane. Full size .pdf files of any of my airplanes are $5.00 per set emailed to your inbox.

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Re: Twin or multi engine plans
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2021, 05:40:17 PM »
That Brodak F-82 has been reported to build nose heavy...especially with Babe Bees.

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Re: Twin or multi engine plans
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