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Title: stuntman 23
Post by: larry jaconetta on December 18, 2006, 01:36:27 PM
happy holidays!!!!
its been a long time since i built a 1/2 A !!! I built a re-issue STUNTMAN 23 old goldberg kit by brodak,
and there is no mention of wing weight ! it's an up-right mounted engine, so i feel like i should put somthing out there!!!!! mabey 1/8 oz or what!!! help-help

                                                                            burgerbut HB
Title: Re: stuntman 23
Post by: Tom Perry on December 18, 2006, 01:43:45 PM
Larry,

Stick a couple of pennys on with double sided sticky tape and see what happens.

 AP^  My two cents worth.   **)
Title: Re: stuntman 23
Post by: minnesotamodeler on December 19, 2006, 12:07:28 AM
I use a nickel.  Jefferson head is best.  1955-62 are vintage years.  Makes the plane fly better.  Honest.

--Ray
Title: Re: stuntman 23
Post by: frank carlisle on December 19, 2006, 01:41:33 PM
The plane should also be yellow Larry. Ask Ray. y1
Title: Re: stuntman 23
Post by: minnesotamodeler on December 19, 2006, 04:19:56 PM
Not SHOULD...MUST be.  If you want it to fly well. 

--Ray
Title: Re: stuntman 23
Post by: bob branch on January 17, 2007, 03:29:32 PM
Love to see a pic! It was the first plane I solo'd  y1

Bob
Title: Re: stuntman 23
Post by: frank carlisle on January 20, 2007, 01:59:11 PM
picture please
Title: Re: stuntman 23
Post by: Bob Disharoon on February 27, 2007, 05:29:31 PM
I love this thread..stuntman was the first builtup wing .049 I ever built....wrecked it alot, and while putting it back together for the umpteenth time, noticed the only decals I had on my bench close to STUNTMAN was SNOTMAN.....putem on and never crashed again!!..go figure..BOB
Title: Re: stuntman 23
Post by: Clint Ormosen on February 28, 2007, 02:58:18 AM
I love this thread..stuntman was the first builtup wing .049 I ever built....wrecked it alot, and while putting it back together for the umpteenth time, noticed the only decals I had on my bench close to STUNTMAN was SNOTMAN.....putem on and never crashed again!!..go figure..BOB


Ummm.......Bob.........I think the Stuntman 23 had a sheet wing. Are you thinking of the 'Lil jumpin Bean?
Title: Re: stuntman 23
Post by: Bob Disharoon on February 28, 2007, 04:28:26 AM
nope..it was 1970 something.....049 23 or 24 span builtup wing..goldberg model
Title: Re: stuntman 23
Post by: Clint Ormosen on March 01, 2007, 10:39:55 PM
Then I think missed out on a cool model. My Stuntman did have a sheet wing (built in 4 sections) and would stall out very easy. Thats when I discovered the Jump'in Bean.
Title: Re: stuntman 23
Post by: Bob Disharoon on March 02, 2007, 07:11:40 AM
I know Im old but Im almost positive it was a goldberg stuntman builtup wing 24" span..any collectors want to weigh in? #^ #^
Title: Re: stuntman 23
Post by: Russell Shaffer on March 03, 2007, 08:29:26 AM
I'm going to weigh in with Clint on this.  I had a Stuntman 23 and I'm almost positive the "23" was for the wingspan.  1/8 sheet, mine didn't fly that great, but neither did I.  I had a Cub 074 on mine, probably would have been better off with one of my Baby Bee's.  Totaled it when I tried a loop and when I saw I wasn't going to make it I attempted to go inverted instead.  Probably it was stalled, anyhow it was going straight down when it hit the packed dirt.  The Cub is in my garage and still runs.
Title: Re: stuntman 23
Post by: Russell Shaffer on March 03, 2007, 08:35:08 AM
Pretty small picture, but here goes.  Credit to Aeromanics. 
Title: Re: stuntman 23
Post by: Bill Little on March 03, 2007, 08:43:36 AM
Yep, The "Stuntman 23" had a sheet 23" WS.  The Lil' Jumpin' Bean had a 24" built up wing and looked very similar.  Still have one of those!

Title: Re: stuntman 23
Post by: Russell Shaffer on March 03, 2007, 08:53:48 AM
Speaking of Carl Goldberg, did anyone else build a Ranger 30?  Mine were free flights but if memory serves, there was a U/C option. 
Title: Re: stuntman 23
Post by: bob branch on March 03, 2007, 09:23:22 AM
Russel

You are right about the Stuntman 23 flying better with a smaller motor. I used golden bee 0.49 with it and it flew quite well. Inside loops and inverted flight were not problem. Never flew any ourside stuff except recovery from inverted and that was fine so it would have done an outside loop.

bob
Title: Re: stuntman 23
Post by: Bob Disharoon on March 03, 2007, 04:50:05 PM
OK..I give...I wish I could remember how I got the decals mixed up with the kits....maybe a tad too much ambroid..yeah, thats it..yeah
Title: Re: stuntman 23
Post by: Russell Shaffer on March 03, 2007, 06:25:50 PM
Ambroid and dope.
Title: Re: stuntman 23
Post by: Bill Adair on March 12, 2007, 12:20:26 AM
Russ,

I built a Ranger 28 in 1959. All sheet balsa construction, with a Cox Pee Wee .020 engine. Think there was also a Ranger 30 available for half A power?

Anyway, lost that cute little Ranger with a brand new Pee Wee engine, when the little devil went OOS on it's maiden flight!  HB~>

Never built another FF.  :(

Bill
Title: Re: stuntman 23
Post by: Mark Scarborough on March 12, 2007, 02:10:18 PM
I built one to be sure, not sure if it was a 30 or a 28? It had sheet wings, built up fuse, the sheet wings though had little riblets to hold the airfoil shape as I recall? man that was long ago, I flew it ,, well maybe flogged it is a better term, Ucontrol. dont remember it flying all the well, but then I didnt either, had the stunman 23, Little toot,(first complete flight on this badboy, and that was without the top wing, I carashed it and broke the wing off, flew it again anyway and actually got my first full tank flight that way, lol) also had the Lil jumping bean.then I got a "real" model, Goldberg shoestring stunter profile! Mcoy redhead 35 , now that was some flyin I am here to tell you, lol,,
Title: Re: stuntman 23
Post by: Robert McHam on March 12, 2007, 09:45:16 PM
Could these be the sheet models in question?
http://www.parmodels.com/Plans/jigtime.htm

Robert
Title: Re: stuntman 23
Post by: Bill Adair on March 12, 2007, 10:40:04 PM
Robert,

The Ranger 28 was exactly as Mark described, but was not ink-stamped like the Jig-Time series. The Jig-Time kits were rubber powered.

The Ranger 21 shown, is very similar in outline to the Ranger 28.

The Ranger 28 had sheet wings, and tail surfaces, with ribs under the wings to  hold the sheet in an undercamber airfoil shape, and a sheeted rectangular fuselage, with formers.  Simple wrap around plastic windows, and a prebent wire landing gear.

I think the Ranger 30 might have had built up tissue covered wings, but I'm not at all sure about that.

That was almost fifty years, and thousands of bottles of beer ago!  DK^

Bill
Title: Re: stuntman 23
Post by: Dennis Vander Kuur on March 21, 2007, 11:34:52 AM
I also built a Carl Goldberg Ranger 30 back in the early '60s. It had a sheet wing with riblets and a built up fuselage. Power for mine was a PeeWee .020. I was a typical kid, had never flown a free flight plane before, knew nothing about engine run timers, and had no way to put in a specific amount of fuel. So, tank was filled, engine was started, plane was launched, it flew with a beautiful circling climb, and (with the PeeWee .020 still screaming) it disappeared into the clouds never to be seen again  ~^ .
DennisV
Title: Re: stuntman 23
Post by: Russell Shaffer on March 24, 2007, 09:03:57 PM
Dennis, my brothers and I lost one the same way.  First flight on a very windy day with a full tank.  Didn't do a nice circling climb, it was a circle and stall into the wind thing, but it got plenty of altitude.  Engine quit and it turned downwind and went straight away.  We were lucky, though, a ranch hand found it that summer and knew that the Shaffer kids flew airplanes.  As I recall, it was undamaged but I have no idea what finally happened to it.  I gave my remaining 020's away recently and hopefully they will fly again. 
Title: Re: stuntman 23
Post by: Mike Lauerman on February 05, 2008, 09:52:18 PM
Could these be the sheet models in question?
http://www.parmodels.com/Plans/jigtime.htm

Robert

Ohhh, Robert! 
I've been searching for info on Jigtime models for 50 years!!! The Cutlass was the best catapault model ever printed! (or glued! Or Both!) But nobody remembered it. But now, thanks to you, I FOUND IT! Bless you. (I also like the Navion)
Title: Re: stuntman 23
Post by: Robert McHam on February 06, 2008, 04:34:32 PM
Mike, that is one of my favorite sites.
I am so glad to be able to provide even one person some help especially when it comes time to relive his or her past!

Tell your friends about it!

Robert
Title: Re: stuntman 23
Post by: Paul Smith on February 06, 2008, 06:48:05 PM
Swordsman 18
Jumping Bean 21
Stuntman 23
Spaceman 30.

One of our local Orbiteers members had a Spaceman 30 powered by a TeeDee 15.  What a rocketbomb!!!!  Enough to make you forget messing with 1/2A's.