Author Topic: Queen Bee Building (Read 18943 times)

minnesotamodeler · « **Reply #100 on:** December 17, 2006, 06:39:24 PM »

--Ray

EDIT to remove that asinine comment I got tired of seeing every time I loaded this page.

frank carlisle · « **Reply #101 on:** December 18, 2006, 06:18:05 AM »

I guess I am the balsa tease now.

I just went down and looked at the Bee. I may have messed it up with the color scheme and pattern I'm using. Sometimes I have to work really hard to screw something up completely.
At any rate it is now in a state of ARF.

I stuck the parts together (no glue) for the picture below. I still have some trim to add on the stab. It's all in tissue so weight shouldn't be a problem.

HONESTLY------what do you think?

Clancy Arnold · « **Reply #102 on:** December 18, 2006, 07:11:51 AM »

Frank
You should feel proud! That color scheme will not let it be lost in a crowd, even among a bunch of normal sized stunt ships.
Clancy

frank carlisle · « **Reply #103 on:** December 18, 2006, 10:41:52 AM »

Clancy, it does stick out like a sore thumb doesn't it?

Richard Grogan · « **Reply #104 on:** December 18, 2006, 06:25:56 PM »

Great idea Frank, and a nice looking Bee Indeed! Hows the all up weight like?

I know that extra balsa in the tips probably broke the scales!!

Good to see you finish it..now onto the next(bee) one? Or, are you saving it for a long cold day!!??

Nice job!
RG

frank carlisle · « **Reply #105 on:** December 18, 2006, 07:00:15 PM »

Thanks Richard------I'm still kinda worried that it looks stupid. But I do have that other one.

Construction notes-----

All of the parts fit very well.
It's a fun build.

Here are some pix of the bellcrank and pushrod set up. The Minnesotaa Modeler really nailed it on simplicity and strength.

Mike Spiess · « **Reply #106 on:** December 18, 2006, 07:01:05 PM »

My son has my camera may be tomorrow I'll have pics.

minnesotamodeler · « **Reply #107 on:** December 18, 2006, 11:55:49 PM »

Who would have thought of it but you...a bumblebee! Very clever!

So what's the next one gonna be...a honeybee? maybe a killer bee, except I don't kow how they're colored. Hmmmm, purple wasp?

Very nice job, Frank.

--Ray

frank carlisle · « **Reply #108 on:** December 19, 2006, 05:19:51 AM »

Quote from: Mike Spiess on December 18, 2006, 07:01:05 PM

My son has my camera may be tomorrow I'll have pics.

Hey Mike, We'll all be looking forward to seeing how you do your Queen Bee, so be sure to post the pix as promised.

We may very well be on our way to having the longest thread at Stunt Hangar!! Did you see that we are on page 3??

frank carlisle · « **Reply #109 on:** December 19, 2006, 05:26:44 AM »

Quote from: minnesotamodeler on December 18, 2006, 11:55:49 PM

Who would have thought of it but you...a bumblebee! Very clever!

So what's the next one gonna be...a honeybee? maybe a killer bee, except I don't kow how they're colored. Hmmmm, purple wasp?

Very nice job, Frank.

--Ray

Thanks Ray---A bumble bee just seemed like a natural. Of course once I got going it started looking kind of stupid. But now that it's getting close to being finished, one advantage I can see is that it will be really hard not to notice it at the circle.

I flew my Queen Bee last night!! Actually had a dream about flying it. I had way too much down in the lines so I had to use most of the up just to keep from crashing it. It was promising though. Maybe tonite I'll get the lines set right.

minnesotamodeler · « **Reply #110 on:** December 19, 2006, 08:21:44 AM »

Boy, I dunno whether to start worrying about you or not...flying in your dreams? Is that a sign of obsession? At least it was one of my models!

--Ray

Richard Grogan · « **Reply #111 on:** December 19, 2006, 11:13:13 AM »

Quote from: frank carlisle on December 19, 2006, 05:26:44 AM

I flew my Queen Bee last night!! Actually had a dream about flying it. I had way too much down in the lines so I had to use most of the up just to keep from crashing it. It was promising though. Maybe tonite I'll get the lines set right.

Frank,
Was that Nitrate or Butyrate?

............

frank carlisle · « **Reply #112 on:** December 19, 2006, 01:36:30 PM »

Quote from: minnesotamodeler on December 19, 2006, 08:21:44 AM

Boy, I dunno whether to start worrying about you or not...flying in your dreams? Is that a sign of obsession? At least it was one of my models!

--Ray

I don't know if it's obsession or not. I do plan on going to bed early tonite. Then I'll have time to adjust the handle. BTW...the Bee flew pretty good on 15 ft lines.

frank carlisle · « **Reply #113 on:** December 19, 2006, 01:37:22 PM »

Quote from: Richard Grogan on December 19, 2006, 11:13:13 AM

Frank,
Was that Nitrate or Butyrate?............

NITE-TRATE of course!!

Mike Spiess · « **Reply #114 on:** December 20, 2006, 03:42:01 PM »

Pics coming soon as I'm leaving for AZ Fri morn. Won't be able to fly there seeing the In-laws for Xmas. But I'll get some mountain biking in with my son and daughters boy friend. If the boy friend doesn't work out we'll leave him in the desert.

Bill Little · « **Reply #115 on:** December 22, 2006, 02:16:07 AM »

Quote from: Mike Spiess on December 20, 2006, 03:42:01 PM

Pics coming soon as I'm leaving for AZ Fri morn. Won't be able to fly there seeing the In-laws for Xmas. But I'll get some mountain biking in with my son and daughters boy friend. If the boy friend doesn't work out we'll leave him in the desert.

Sounds like a plan!

Richard Grogan · « **Reply #116 on:** December 23, 2006, 08:29:31 AM »

I guess Mike's pixs got lost in the server outage....

Mike Spiess · « **Reply #117 on:** December 24, 2006, 08:42:05 AM »

Yea what happened? I'm in AZ at the Inlaws so I can't repost till I get home. That'll be next year

. Still no news on the boyfriend yet

frank carlisle · « **Reply #118 on:** December 27, 2006, 05:01:35 PM »

O.K.!!!!!!!!!

Finally got my Queen Bee ready to fly. Weighs 1 1/2 oz. and is nose heavy. I believe I'll be taking the gear off of it.
I plan to spray a couple more coats of clear so it may end up properly balanced.

What a hassle getting the motor bolted on!!

I plan on going to Flint on New Years Day for our annual "Event for the insane" if the wind cooperates and the motor runs I'll get some video of it flying and post a link so you guys can check it out.

Richard Grogan · « **Reply #119 on:** December 27, 2006, 05:22:58 PM »

Quote from: frank carlisle on December 27, 2006, 05:01:35 PM

O.K.!!!!!!!!!

I plan on going to Flint on New Years Day for our annual "Event for the insane" if the wind cooperates and the motor runs I'll get some video of it flying and post a link so you guys can check it out.

Please do Frank! Thats one sharp looking Bee! You are a true craftsman. Now about that LA Heat...

frank carlisle · « **Reply #120 on:** December 27, 2006, 06:33:32 PM »

I'm going to get back to the LA Heat in week or two. Right now I'm going to try to get that auto-gyro ready to fly.

Thnks for the craftsman remrk----sadly up close there are flaws. Small ones but ..............

minnesotamodeler · « **Reply #121 on:** December 27, 2006, 08:08:04 PM »

I approve of the color.

--Ray

frank carlisle · « **Reply #122 on:** December 27, 2006, 08:27:41 PM »

Quote from: minnesotamodeler on December 27, 2006, 08:08:04 PM

I approve of the color.

--Ray

YES..............if it's a MM model it must be yellow!!

I managed that stinkin' wire thru the rib jazz only to come up against those tee-niney motor screws. Sheesh!!

minnesotamodeler · « **Reply #123 on:** December 28, 2006, 01:51:08 AM »

Fat fingers, hmmmmmm?

frank carlisle · « **Reply #124 on:** December 28, 2006, 09:07:06 PM »

Fat and stiff Ray. From years of using power tools. It's easier to pound in a gutter spike with a 16 oz. hammer than it is to build these little puppies.

Richard Grogan · « **Reply #125 on:** January 04, 2007, 04:13:07 PM »

Well, Is that it for the Bee Building? Seems there were a few others we were waiting for pixs on....

??

minnesotamodeler · « **Reply #126 on:** January 04, 2007, 04:25:23 PM »

Yeah, I dunno what happened to them...I remember one was going to start his after Christmas. Where are you, guys?

frank carlisle · « **Reply #127 on:** January 04, 2007, 04:51:11 PM »

Hey!! At least we got ours built!! Maybe the Holidays got them off track. I would sure like to see what they come up with.

Clancy Arnold · « **Reply #128 on:** January 04, 2007, 05:21:02 PM »

Where are the Bees. The IBTW Barnstormer is on 30 ft .008 stranded lines and wanting to race!

Any Queen Bees flying yet?

Clancy

He He.

frank carlisle · « **Reply #129 on:** January 04, 2007, 05:48:36 PM »

Clancy----all your talk about flying got me curious about where you are from. Indianapolis,Right? Well I thought you'd be from Arizona or Fla. so my hat is off to you!! You're just as chilly as we are in Detroit.
I'm going to see about going flying this coming weekend. If I do and if my .020 will run for me, I'll be able to post a flying report. Maybe even a video. Then maybe I'll take you up on that race!! That should be fun.
Have you flown loops etc. with the ibtw Barnstormer?

Clancy Arnold · « **Reply #130 on:** January 04, 2007, 09:10:35 PM »

Frank
Now that I have went to .008 x 30 ft stranded steel lines I can try it out for loops and such.

Jack Sheeks wants to try it out. He might build one for himself.

Clancy

Leroy Heikes · « **Reply #131 on:** January 05, 2007, 08:47:25 AM »

I'm still here! Didn't get started because the weather was to nice so the wife comes up with all sorts of honey do items. I did get my bench all cleaned off, and the Bee box is sitting in the middle of it along with an Enterprise Sopwith Camel for an 0.049, and the Auto Gyro. Plus the Stabilizer for my Scale P47, which by the way is longer than the Bee and the Camels wings put together, and has more parts!

Leroy

frank carlisle · « **Reply #132 on:** January 05, 2007, 09:13:52 AM »

Hey!! There you are Leroy!!..................I hope you start your Bee next. With your scale modeling experience yours will probably be the nicest one of the lot.

Did you get a digital camera for Christmas?

Leroy Heikes · « **Reply #133 on:** January 05, 2007, 10:10:19 AM »

Frank;
I did not get one for Christmas,

but I may buy myself a cheap one for taking building shots in a week or two. Watch out Walmart here I come!

Leroy

Richard Grogan · « **Reply #134 on:** January 05, 2007, 09:49:18 PM »

Quote from: Leroy Heikes on January 05, 2007, 10:10:19 AM

Frank;
I did not get one for Christmas, but I may buy myself a cheap one for taking building shots in a week or two. Watch out Walmart here I come!

Leroy

Check your local pawnshops too. may find something real cheap!

Mike Spiess · « **Reply #135 on:** January 07, 2007, 12:12:36 PM »

Here's the pics that got lost.

Clancy Arnold · « **Reply #136 on:** January 07, 2007, 01:04:45 PM »

Mike
I like the colors and the checkerboard wings. BUT, unless you are flying CW I give it 1 1/2 laps before all of your fuel will have dumped out the fill and vent lines.
Clancy

Robert McHam · « **Reply #137 on:** January 07, 2007, 05:14:22 PM »

That checkerboard covering is really cool! Where can I get some? Was it once black and white dyed blue? I have seen black and white and red and white. Yet I still do not know where to get the checkerboard patterns ( besides the expensive heavy iron-ons trim sheets).

Robert

minnesotamodeler · « **Reply #138 on:** January 07, 2007, 09:38:05 PM »

Quote from: Clancy Arnold on January 07, 2007, 01:04:45 PM

Mike
I like the colors and the checkerboard wings. BUT, unless you are flying CW I give it 1 1/2 laps before all of your fuel will have dumped out the fill and vent lines.
Clancy

Yes, you need to reverse the tank...put the vents and NV on the inboard side. Plug the lower vent after filling.

--Ray

frank carlisle · « **Reply #139 on:** January 08, 2007, 02:31:53 AM »

Quote from: Mike Spiess on January 07, 2007, 12:12:36 PM

Here's the pics that got lost.

Nice work Mike!!.........love the tissue.

Mike Spiess · « **Reply #140 on:** January 08, 2007, 03:33:45 PM »

The tissue on the wings came from a Freeflight Club auction some years ago. So I don't have any idea of where it came from. I also got some red and black. I have some issues with the tank at this time the motor was used on a freeflight and was set up for a eyedropper tank so there is a hole in the tank that has to be filled and at that time I'll set it right.

Robert McHam · « **Reply #141 on:** January 08, 2007, 04:23:42 PM »

Mike Spiess said:
"I have some issues with the tank at this time the motor was used on a freeflight and was set up for a eyedropper tank so there is a hole in the tank that has to be filled and at that time I'll set it right."

Duct Tape! Heh!

Robert

minnesotamodeler · « **Reply #142 on:** January 08, 2007, 04:25:53 PM »

How 'bout a tiny little cork? Or some bubble gum (see "Rocketeer")?

frank carlisle · « **Reply #143 on:** January 08, 2007, 04:58:48 PM »

jb weld?

Robert McHam · « **Reply #144 on:** January 08, 2007, 10:33:45 PM »

There is some really good stuff that you can use with a propane torch. Its called HTS-2000:
http://www.aluminumrepair.com/more_info.asp
Really good stuff.

Robert

Mike Spiess · « **Reply #145 on:** January 09, 2007, 03:44:35 PM »

"Cork from a brandy bottle" Burt Munro (Worlds Fastest Indian) He's been my hero since an artical about him in a motorcycle mag back in the 70's
http://www.worldsfastestindian.com/

George · « **Reply #146 on:** January 10, 2007, 08:51:08 AM »

Quote from: Robert McHam on January 08, 2007, 10:33:45 PM

There is some really good stuff that you can use with a propane torch. Its called HTS-2000:
http://www.aluminumrepair.com/more_info.asp
Really good stuff.

Robert

There are a couple of those products available in aluminum and also at least one in steel. You need to practice a few times before tackling something good. Don't ask...

I got mine from Eastwood (auto repair) because they offered small quantities.

George

PS. You guys convinced me. Got two Queen Bees started. So far, cut out balsa parts. Hinged elevator to stab, glued firewall braces to fuselage, and sanded rib stacks. The rest will take more time depending on the TUIT factor.

frank carlisle · « **Reply #147 on:** January 10, 2007, 09:27:58 AM »

be sure to post pix as you build your Bees George. And welcome aboard.

minnesotamodeler · « **Reply #148 on:** January 10, 2007, 11:18:59 AM »

Consider Frank seconded.

Mike Spiess · « **Reply #149 on:** January 10, 2007, 04:38:03 PM »

pics pics pics