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Offline Chancey Chorney

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1/2a Wingtip Weight
« on: February 17, 2015, 07:33:43 PM »
Hi there.  I am building a Baby Ringmaster with built-up wing.  Getting ready to cover it, but want to put the weight on the outer edge of the wingtip before covering.  It has been a while since I have built and flown control line, and was just wondering if anyone could please give me an idea as to how much weight to put, as it is not mentioned on the plans.  Thank you.

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Re: 1/2a Wingtip Weight
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2015, 07:51:33 PM »
Hi Chancy,
I usually start with a 1/4 ounce (7g) on most 1/2A planes. Hard to know for sure, but get someone who knows how to watch the wings on your trim flights, right side up and inverted. You probably know that.
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Re: 1/2a Wingtip Weight
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2015, 08:26:09 PM »
Thank you.  I will do the 1/4 oz internally before covering, then if I have to add more later, I will then glue onto the outer edge of the wing.

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Re: 1/2a Wingtip Weight
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2015, 10:02:25 PM »
Chancey, a quarter oz for starters should be fine. A wise ol' control line flyer in a personal message told me when I asked the same question, " Too much tip weight may cost a few pattern points in competition, too little may cost you an airplane"!! Just gotta love 1/2a stuff!!!   #^
Ray from Greensboro, North Carolina , six laps inverted so far with my hand held vertically!!! (forgot to mention, none level!) AMA# 902150

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Re: 1/2a Wingtip Weight
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2015, 08:18:56 PM »
Before you cover it, suggest you install a tip weight box.
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Re: 1/2a Wingtip Weight
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2015, 09:35:12 PM »
Thanks again.  I would like to make a wingtip weight box, but I am not sure how to make one, let alone one that small.  It is just for fun flying, but i will research a bit.  I will not cover it till springtime here as mama would NOT appreciate the smell in the house.

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Re: 1/2a Wingtip Weight
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2015, 03:56:18 AM »
Your tip weight box can be as simple as a piece of 1/2" brass tube embedded in the tip.

It only has to hold 1/2 oz of lead at max.

How you put it in vertical or horizontal is an exercise for you to persue.

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Re: 1/2a Wingtip Weight
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2015, 07:25:21 AM »
It's never a certain weight.  It's how much weight it takes to move the CG outboard of the thrust line.  The position of the CG vs the thrust line determines whether the airplane will turn left or right.  Too much line pull is better than none at all.
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Re: 1/2a Wingtip Weight
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2015, 07:35:05 AM »
An aluminum screw-top cigar tube makes a good weight box. Cut it off an inch or two long and plug the back end so you have a short screw-top container you can embed in the wing. You may be forced to take a break and smoke a cigar.
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Re: 1/2a Wingtip Weight
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2015, 02:01:06 AM »
Gotta put my two cents worth in.  H^^ 

Two cents is 5.0 gr. (Each penny is 2.5 gr.). That is a good place to start on many 1/2A planes. With a built-up wing you can make a tip weight box. For adjusting tip weight some use small fishing line weights. Those are good because you know how much each weighs.

Some of us old guys have been known to use Ambroid (or other) glue tubes as tip weight. Then there is always a chunk of solder.

How much effort you put into it determines the accuracy of your outcome. If you put in enough effort it will become easier each time you do it until it becomes just another building step.

Good luck whichever way you choose.

Oh, one more thing...tip weight access looks MUCH better on the BOTTOM of a wing.  ;D

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Re: 1/2a Wingtip Weight
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2015, 08:42:42 AM »
Hi Chauncey; nice to see you back. 1/4 oz in the outboard tip is a good place to start. Using a piece of aluminum or brass tubing is also a good idea, which can be installed on the tip rib or "in the tip itself. Wire solder or BBs can be put into the tube if you need additional weight, which will depend on the length and type of flying lines you use. PS send me your email address and I'll put you on our club mailing list.
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