Author Topic: Beginners Ringmaster Bipe (Read 2894 times)

pat king · « **on:** November 24, 2010, 01:04:34 PM »

I am surveying to see if there is enough interest for me to make some laser cut kits of the Beginners Ringmaster Bipe.

Pat

david beazley · « **Reply #1 on:** November 24, 2010, 02:52:38 PM »

Pat,
Any price point yet?

pat king · « **Reply #2 on:** November 24, 2010, 09:25:39 PM »

It should be in the $31.00 to $35.00 plus shipping range.

Pat

Larry Renger · « **Reply #3 on:** November 26, 2010, 06:42:45 PM »

If you set the nose length to use the Black Widow instead of the Babe Bee, it would be a nifty plane for the Kwikee Stunt event! It is a shame to limit such a nice design to inside maneuvers only.

minnesotamodeler · « **Reply #4 on:** November 26, 2010, 08:19:04 PM »

Not that it would be difficult to cut 1/4" or so off the nose...

pat king · « **Reply #5 on:** November 27, 2010, 05:02:21 AM »

If the SureStart engine is used the external tank gives full inverted capability.

Pat

LARRY RICE · « **Reply #6 on:** November 27, 2010, 06:31:00 AM »

Black Hawk Models Navy Fighter flys better and is cheaper. Designed after Joy Products Stunt Runt.

Larry

pat king · « **Reply #7 on:** November 27, 2010, 08:44:41 AM »

Larry,
I don't dispute your claim, but that one isn't a Ringmaster. This one is more for a nostalga thing. If everyone would be satisfied with a single airplane design of each size and type, there wouldn't be many airplane designs available.
Thanks, Pat

LARRY RICE · « **Reply #8 on:** November 27, 2010, 09:57:12 AM »

Pat,

I am sorry, Pat, I just do not think much of the ringmaster bipe, I would rather have any of their monoplanes like the Baby Ringmaster; but that is just me. Another good one to kit would be a FireBaby.

Larry

Glenn (Gravitywell) Reach · « **Reply #9 on:** November 27, 2010, 01:25:29 PM »

Thats probably one of the rudest things I have seen someone do here in a long time. I think I'll waite till you try to sell something, Larry....then tell everyone how I think its crap (just my opinion mind you).

LARRY RICE · « **Reply #10 on:** November 27, 2010, 09:34:36 PM »

Well since Pat has not invested gobs of money producing a kit yet I felt that it would be kinder to give him my honest advice but if I was rude I do heartily apologise to Pat and wish him all of the luck in the world with his project.

Larry

pat king · « **Reply #11 on:** November 27, 2010, 09:39:38 PM »

I am working on making the Ringmaster varients, those that are not presently being kitted by someone, available. The laser cuts arrived today for the prototype Ringmaster Jr. Flash. That will be the next of the Ringmaster types that I will be offering. A nostalga thing for us to re-live our youth. There are a lot of airplanes that were not very good that some of us remember fondly because they were our first, or our first to loop, etc. . The Ringmaster Sportster is one of the least favorite Ringmasters, but I have sold several of the kits. Different strokes for different folks.

Pat

Joe Mig · « **Reply #12 on:** November 28, 2010, 06:08:45 AM »

Well the plans look great of the Ringmaster Bipe .

Glenn (Gravitywell) Reach · « **Reply #13 on:** November 28, 2010, 12:14:22 PM »

Here's one I built. This is before Pat did the plans darn it! LOL Would have been a much easier build with Pat's plan, but oh well. This little bipe is an absolute gas to fly, it would be the best 30-some-odd-bucks you spend!

Bob Furr · « **Reply #14 on:** November 30, 2010, 12:36:46 PM »

Did my first loops with a ringmaster bipe... and after breaking off the top wing in a crash trying to learn to fly inverted used it with just the bottom wing to fly mouse race back in the very early 70's.... I used to do so many inside loops that the controls would lock up from drag on the dacron lines....
Bob

ChrisSarnowski · « **Reply #15 on:** December 01, 2010, 06:25:34 PM »

Personally I think you need to resolve this Navy Fighter vs Beginner's Ringmaster Bipe with a fly-off at a neutral site, say Brodak's.

-Chris

pat king · « **Reply #16 on:** December 02, 2010, 07:14:00 AM »

Biggest problem with that, this old fool gets so dizzy after 10 laps I am falling down.

I believe it is one or more of my meds. I am going to practice turning around to see if I can improve the situation. Larry's airplane probably has more wing area, therefore it should have an edge. If I kit the Beginners Ringmaster Bipe it will be as much a nostalga thing as anything else.

Pat

LARRY RICE · « **Reply #17 on:** December 02, 2010, 09:10:02 AM »

The Ringmaster Beginners Bipe is a little older design and I am sure that it is able to perform quite well. I will not get into a discusion about the merits of one plane over the other as it seem to agitate some folks. I will say that if Pat does produce the Ringmaster Bipe I am sure that it will be a fine kit and that everyone who buys it will enjoy it. All the best of luck to you, Pat.

Your friend
Larry

ChrisSarnowski · « **Reply #18 on:** December 03, 2010, 02:38:42 PM »

Hi Pat,

I like the look of it. I would get one if you do the kits.

-Chris

Bob Furr · « **Reply #19 on:** December 04, 2010, 12:57:17 PM »

Do you take paypal? Just reliving my childhood.....
Bob Furr

pat king · « **Reply #20 on:** December 04, 2010, 08:47:52 PM »

I do take PayPal, but there are no kits available yet.

Thanks, Pat

Author Topic: Beginners Ringmaster Bipe (Read 2894 times)

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