Well I have 6 flights on the new Mini Force, flies just like the old one, GREAT!  Holds a line like its on a rail, powers through loops witha 6x3 APC (although I prefer a 6 x3.5 Master Airscrew that I dug up somewhere), and glides FOREVER after the motor kicks out.  Regardless of where I am on the circle, I can whip it enough to bring it in for a perfect landing at the starting spot on my "runway". 

Not sure, but may need to add a little more tipweight, got a nickel in the soda top weightbox (thanks again Minnesota Modeller), may add a dime.  Right now it seems to fly level, but my planes seem to last longer if my outside wing is dropping just a hair.  Keeps them from rolling on me in outside manuevers.

Same engine, sort of.  I had 2 AP .061 wasps, one was a screamer an one was kinda tempermental.  The engine casing around the venturi on the screamer cracked when I ran it into the ground and the needle dug in.  So I took the shaft, piston, head, and backing off the screamer and put it into the tempermental one.  Voila, another screamer.

Just came in from the court again.  Tried some back to back wingovers and  fig 8's with great success, then something cool happened.  Neighbor down the road came up the street with a box.  Said he'd been watching me for several weeks having a ball and wanted to join in.  In the box was a Testors P51 that was his sons! (always wanted one of those).  Asked if he could fly a few laps and after we got her cranked up he put in a few level flights before falling down from being dizzy.  Said it'd been 35 years since he flew.

Pretty fun evening in general.

Thanks Ray,

I'd have to say mine resembles yours, The Skywriter was around long before the Mini Force, plus I took a lot of notes from your in depth build log on that plane.  I skeletonized (is that a word?) the fuse from the TE back to the tail, used your idea for a wing tip box (top of a soda bottle, I love this!) and you and I both used the wingtip appearance of the Primary Force.

One thing I did do on this plane was stick build the rudder and elevator which really helped me on the weight.  I think it made them stiffer too.

I still stuck with the idea of no center spar on the wing, including a carbon fiber rod on the leading edge instead secured by CA and thread.  Rib spacing is just over 2.75" of 1/16" balsa. 

Front of the plane has 1/16" ply doublers on both sides of the fuse for my inevitable nose first crashes.

Yeah you know, a nose first pile drive like I did last night as opposed to a loose line wingfirst roll in, or an inverted whoops, theres the ground scraping.

Man, I MURDERED the Part Deux last night.  Was a beautiful evening for flying, no wind, awesome runs on the engine.  Was doing back t back wingovers, no issues, single fig 8's some inverted, having a ball.  Then I got cocky and went to do 3 fig 8's back to back.  No idea what happend, on the inside loop of the 3rd 8, it just went straight in.  Nosecone gone, fuse busted in 2, wings sheared clean off, even broke the elevator (didn't break the prop though).  Going to post a pic of the remains when I get a chance, it was something to see.

Ive always heard that a good stunt ship should disentegrate in a crash, so I guess this was a good one.

I may be able to salvage some parts of it, but it'll not be very much, probably better to just build another.

Its been my experience that major structural damage is better to completely replace as opposed to repair.  I'll take a couple of pics tomorrow when I'm at my home office and post them up so you can see what I'm talking about.

I dunno Ray, the more I look at it the less I think I can salvage

Ouch! That's painful even to look at.  Did you crash it on concrete, and if so how's the engine?  I cracked a Norvel case once (patched it with JB Weld, still going strong).

You also need to find a grass circle. Much more forgiving.