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Title: DPC Scientific Hellcat & OK Cub .049R
Post by: GallopingGhostler on August 24, 2016, 12:04:26 PM
Dane Martin freely sent me a prized gift a few days ago, a prized OK Cub .049R engine. Speaking about his kind and free willing spirit, this is not a good condition used engine, it is new! For an OK Cub, this long stroke engine has extremely good compression. It is the reed valve engine, which I have heard is actually a decent performing engine. Comparing to the Cox .049 tank backed engine, this engine has the same bolt pattern, thus it is a direct drop in.

Many thanks, Bro. Dane. I have attached photos of a DPC, Farmington, NM retro-kit I've been working on for the past 2 years. It sat on a shelf for a year. I was undecided what engine should I use to power it. Now, I have a period correct engine for it. Although the Walt Musciano kit was released by Scientific in 1964, OK Cubs were still being sold. Many earlier Scientific 1/2-A CL kits show an OK Cub .049A on the plans. Scientific shows a Cox Babe Bee.

Why does this kit have a special place in my heart? 50 some years ago, I got the kit as a birthday gift when I was in 4th or 5th grade, mid 1960's. That had a Cox .020 Pee Wee. It was my first (but not last) experience with silkspan to cover the wing. Prior to it I built several rubber powered stick and tissue kits, so was already familiar with covering. I built it and painted it with dark blue dope. We may see the reliving of the battle of the Philippine Sea soon. ~>
Title: Re: DPC Scientific Hellcat & OK Cub .049R
Post by: goozgog on August 24, 2016, 02:41:07 PM
George, That looks great!  

   I was unaware of that Scientific design
with the vacuum formed deck. It was the sort of thing
that I loved as a kid. Opening the kit box and seeing
cool parts.
  

Cheers! - K.
Title: Re: DPC Scientific Hellcat & OK Cub .049R
Post by: wwwarbird on August 24, 2016, 08:15:32 PM

 That's cool, please keep us posted on the build. y1
Title: Re: DPC Scientific Hellcat & OK Cub .049R
Post by: Dane Martin on August 24, 2016, 08:25:00 PM
George,
When we were on the phone and you said scientific kit,  I thought to myself "self,  you have a scientific kit". Sooooo I wandered out to the garage (tiny) and dug around. As it turns out, I had 4 scientific kits! Re-pros I'm sure.  And one is a dauntless!
I'll probably build the stunt champ in a few months. It looks promising.
Title: Re: DPC Scientific Hellcat & OK Cub .049R
Post by: david beazley on August 25, 2016, 04:39:22 AM
Is anyone still making the re-pros?
Title: Re: DPC Scientific Hellcat & OK Cub .049R
Post by: GallopingGhostler on August 25, 2016, 05:57:31 AM
David Cowell's website is: http://dpcmodels.homestead.com/ (http://dpcmodels.homestead.com/) He also posts as skyraider on http://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/ (http://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/)

Although he doesn't advertise them on his Aerowerkes website, he does make such repos. I'd contact him if I were you. He also made a Sterling profile 1/2-A Lockheed P-38 for a gal, Brenda who builds 1/2-A control line aircraft. She has an article on it on Hip Pocket. David has a notice on his website that he is not accepting orders September 15 through November 10, so you might want to contact him right away.

Incidently, Tony G on Stuka Stunt pointed out that there were 2 versions of the OK "R". Sure enough, I put it along side an OK Cub .049A that I have on a CG Swordsman 18. The tank on back is the same size as the .049A. The engine is about 1/4" taller than the "A". I surmise I have the .06R. Dane mentioned it as a .059, which I thought was a typo, apparently not. Haven't weighed it, but probably is very close to the "A", just a minor touch more. This would then explain why its power is decent for a half-A.

It will probably move any aircraft powered by it as spritely as the Cox reedies.

Hobby King USA West outlet has a limited number of Black Hawk Musiciano Scientific "hollow log" half-A CL kits for sale. As Larry Rice has discontinued production, once they are gone, they are gone.
Title: Re: DPC Scientific Hellcat & OK Cub .049R
Post by: Dane Martin on August 25, 2016, 12:01:27 PM
George,  I was thinking maybe it's this engine....
What do you think
Title: Re: DPC Scientific Hellcat & OK Cub .049R
Post by: GallopingGhostler on August 25, 2016, 12:17:43 PM
Dane, the .059R does seem to be a reasonable match. The one in the photo has the OK glow head instead of the glow plug head. I understand this was an option. The 2015 OK Engine Parts price list states it as the .06R. So, it appears that they may have used the designations interchangeably. I notice the engine you gave me has a slightly different and shorter prop thrust plate than the 1960 one. I'm wondering if it may be a later version, has a shorter 5-40 prop screw like the Cox reedies.

I found the plastic needle valve friction collar works best if tang is oriented between the fuel tank fill / overflow nipples.
Title: Re: DPC Scientific Hellcat & OK Cub .049R
Post by: 944_Jim on January 28, 2017, 10:22:39 PM
Is anyone still making the re-pros?
Dave Cowel's Typhoon and FW-190:
Title: Re: DPC Scientific Hellcat & OK Cub .049R
Post by: Paul Smith on January 29, 2017, 11:40:44 AM
The Zipper had the plastic top, too.  I'm not so happy about how I got glued-on.

I was able to paint from the inside, which wasn't easy.
Title: Re: DPC Scientific Hellcat & OK Cub .049R
Post by: Chancey Chorney on January 29, 2017, 01:29:19 PM
I gots me this here waiting to be built. Bought it locally last year on our version of Craigslist.
Title: Re: DPC Scientific Hellcat & OK Cub .049R
Post by: Paul Smith on January 29, 2017, 02:32:03 PM
Built it or bay it.

Here's the Zipper with the plastic top.  This plane, like some of my others, was a rescue rehab of a homeless model dropped off at the local senior citizens special.  The assembly had been bungled and I needed to dissolve the glue and go back to square one.

Title: Re: DPC Scientific Hellcat & OK Cub .049R
Post by: 944_Jim on April 16, 2017, 10:13:29 PM
Mr. Chancey,

You have a PM.

I gots me this here waiting to be built. Bought it locally last year on our version of Craigslist.

Title: Re: DPC Scientific Hellcat & OK Cub .049R
Post by: wwwarbird on April 17, 2017, 07:07:33 PM

 George,

 Did the Hellcat ever get finished?