Hey Wayne! I don't have a bunch of pics, but the video here's shows it more complete. The pic is before the rudder and control system. I got it from bmjr models.

Wayne, I'm kinda surprised there's not a lot more responses. I always thought this was a very popular model by black hawk!

Here are a couple thoughts if you really plan to make this a basic trainer, not a beauty queen.

You need to fly over grass with no landing gear. 

If you do that with a low-winger, the wing hits the ground first & gets all beat up.  While the CoX PT-19 is a historic icon, it's not such a good trainer.  Cox ran programs in which they donated a lot of PT-19's that got splattered on the pavement without actually teaching many kids to fly.

A basic wood hollow log with the wing on top and goodly amount of tip weight is a better bet.

Rubber-banding the wing was never a really hot tip for CL.   But a rubber band engine mount is a good thing for 1/2A.   The firewalls were always coming off the old Scientific logs.

In one field repair I shoved an Allen wrench through the body and used it to anchor the rubber bands to hold the engine mount until the glue dried.  Then flew the plane that way for the rest of its life.

Wow! I've never seen that one before Wayne. There's two different current production models from black hawk. I've built one, the other is on the to do list. One is kit number FS1000 and that's the hollow log. The other is actually a profile. Both look cool. But are much smaller than the one you have. I believe they are 18" WS

Larry...wait a sec...I was understanding that the Canadian operation was imminent and we would see many of the discontinued modes re surface?


WTF....sorry that is hard... whats up brother, I am waiting for a few models I never bought and are now unobtanium

 Thanks for the information Larry, it's nice to know the history of the series.

 I do understand the intended features designed into the kit, I'm just going to dress this one up a bit though and also build it as a "one-piece" model. It seems I can't ever get myself to simply build something right from the box.

 Sorry to hear of the dissolution of Blackhawk, I should have gotten my Phantom Mk XV while I had the chance.

Thanks Tim, but I do not see that happening, I am just planning on going on as long as I can.  I worked every day of my life, usually two jobs at a time, now I am 71 it is time to spend as much time as I have left loving my beautiful wife. 

Bless you all for letting me make a difference.

Larry

Sorry for sidetracking the post Wayne

 You're not at all Dane, and yes, thank you Larry for all of your efforts and contributions to our hobby, wishing you the best!

 Started chipping away on the PT last night...

 So far, since I prefer to finish balsa more than I do plywood, I've laminated a 1/32" balsa sheet to what will be the exterior sides of the fuse. I used a very thin layer of 30 minute epoxy and then weighted it down to cure. I am also going to cut about 3/8" off all along the top of the sheet fuselage sides for a lower finished profile, simply for a better look.
 I razor sawed a centerline in the wing and gave it a 1/2" of dihedral at each tip, again only for a better finished appearance. I reinforced the bottom of the wing at that section with some cloth tape and 30 minute epoxy as well. Once the wing is attached to the fuse I'll then add a fillet using Aero-Fil and it'll be all good to go.
 I've decided to use the plywood stab and elevator and I have them sanded and ready for hinging with CA and some fishing line. I do think I'll make a new fin and rudder from 1/8" balsa.
 I'll also be bending up a new landing gear using some slightly heavier wire than what was provided in the kit. Another detail will be substituting a 2-56 threaded rod and clevis for the stock kit pushrod.

 I'll add some photos when I have a little more time...

Thanks for the kind words, but it has always been our fine customers who made Black Hawk Models everything that they were. 

  thank to all of our customers and friends, you have made making these kits worthwhile.

Larry

I would like to clear up one point in reply to the comment that the Cox version didn't fly well. My club, the Knights of the Round Circle has trained truly hundreds of kids with the model. They fly well and take a heck of a beating.  Not only can they do loops and wingovers, I actually have done square loops with them (inside only, of course). I don't know who designed it, but he did a heck of a good job! It was in production for at least 25 years that I know of.

It is great that Blackhawk is producing a model with the same "bashability"! 

We, Melvin Schuette and I had the privelage of helping Dale Kirn at the NATS.  It was not unusual for some of the youngsters to solo the Cox PT-19.   I wonder now if the young lad still has the kit Dale gave him at the end of the day.   I mean he was one of the first to sign up for a flight.  Every hour Dale would pull a name out of the box, names of those that had tried to fly.  This young man signed up every hour.  He also helped with retrieving the planes.  Needless to say at the end of the day when the last name was drawn he did not get his name drawn.  Talk about a sad face.   Then Dale called him to the table and said take this.  It was the full package with plane, lines, handle, fuel and battery.   That young man left with a grin from ear to ear and the hug he gave Dale was worth the time we spent that day.   

 As the dust settles, here's a few updates on where I'm at...

 I've got the fuse sides trimmed down and sanded. I reshaped the cockpit openings as well. They were just plain round circle cutouts but I squared up the rear portion just a little bit. I then added a piece of 1/64" ply to the underside of the cutouts to close them up from the outside.
 
 I also reshaped the fin/rudder to a more scale appearing outline, sanded the offset angle into it, and have it ready to glue up.

 Next was some sanding to clean up the wing dihedral joint, and then I "fine-tuned" the wingtip outline a bit too.

 Wing center work and wingtip before/after...

 To help with some activity through the winter months our Piston Poppers club holds a "Club Building Session" the first Sunday of January February and March. I brought the PT along today and got a few more things done. In between the usual BS-ing that goes on I glued the tail end of the fuselage together and then attached the fuselage top piece. After that I sanded the fuse sides flush with the top and squared it all up. Next on that will be rounding it across the top over the full length of the fuselage. Then I picked up the wing and got the L/E, T/E, and wingtips all rounded and sanded to shape. All the other parts are pretty close to ready to go now too, I'm almost ready to glue it all together and make an airplane out of it...

 NOTE: I'd feel I should also mention in this thread that all of the modifications I'm doing here to Larry's Blackhawk PT-19 kit are completely unnecessary. The PT-19 would be a great build and fly well even if built straight out-of-the-box. My thing is I just can't seem to leave anything alone when building, I enjoy putting my own little "tweaks" in here and there as I go. In this case I mainly wanted to just build it as a "one-piece" airplane instead of the engineered-in rubber band assembly. That, and a few minor hardware and cosmetic changes, and we're moving right along.

 I was wondering, does anyone know if the Nobler pictured above is a kit or? This one came off of Ebay, already built.

 Got a few more things done on the PT over the past couple evenings...

 Last night I sanded a radius into the top of the fuselage and then epoxied the wing into place. Sanding that radius is a lot easier without the wing in the way. Tonight was mounting all of the tail surfaces, it is now officially a "one-piece" airplane.
 
 I also decided to move the bellcrank mount inboard from where it was. I made a balsa plug for the original laser cut hole, epoxied it in place, and then sanded it flush with the wing surface. I'm not sure why the mount was out so far on the wing, my moving it in will get the pushrod running closer alongside the fuselage. After that the leadout guide was also epoxied into the wing.
 
 Next will be bending up a new landing gear, laminating it into the firewall, and then mounting that as an assembly.  

 A little more tinkering on the PT tonight.

 First was marking and drilling pilot holes for the engine mount in the kit firewall so that I could make sure and "miss" those with the L/G wire placement. Then I positioned the wire, traced it, and milled a groove into the firewall with the Dremel. After that the L/G was laminated into it with 30 minute epoxy and additional layer of light ply...

 ..and then I made up a couple little "fairing" pieces for each side of the vertical fin to cosmetically blend the fuselage to the tail. These will also add a bit of strength to the tail assembly. 

 Got a few more things done on the PT tonight.

 In preparing to mount the firewall assembly I first plugged the rectangular hole in the fuselage top block. This hole was intended as a locating hole for the rubber band "breakaway" firewall of the original kit design. I simply epoxied in a piece of scrap wood to fill it in, then I can cut it off and sand it flush later on...

 Another added detail was making a light ply bellcrank mount reinforcement for the bottom side of the wing. Once complete and with the bellcrank mounted this makes for a "sandwiched" assembly in the wing along with the top mount, greatly increasing the overall strength of the mount...

 Then, with 30 minute epoxy curing on all of this, it was time to walk away for the night and toss a pizza in the oven. 

You are now at the part I dread most, finishing.   I love what you have done with this design.

Thanks Doc, this will be a pretty easy one to finish up. 

I don't know Wayne. That's a lot of tiny little curves to monokote.....

 Well, we got the fuselage closed up tonight...

 First a piece was made from 1/16" balsa to reach from the firewall all the way to the tail. The proper shape was determined by simply pressing the sheet against the bottom of the fuselage and then tracing the fuselage sides. After cutting the outline it was sanded for a perfect fit all around. Then I marked a centerline across the wing chord and cut a slit in it from front to rear to "relieve" the piece over the wing dihedral area during attachment. In the one close-up photo the slit can just be seen, running between the two red Sharpie dots.
 
 Then it got tricky. I discovered it was going to take about eight hands to hold pressure everywhere that would be necessary during the attachment because of the varying contours from front to rear. I don't have eight hands so I ended up gluing just the front section down first, from across the wing L/E to the firewall. I used 5 minute epoxy, and held it for ten minutes.
 
 Next, I taped off the wing root line on the wing surface and then dribbled CA all down the inside of the fuselage sheet from the wing T/E forward. I taped the wing root off first so that the CA wouldn't ooze into that area as I squeezed the sheet down during attachment. It took all eight fingers and both thumbs.
 
 Finally, I got out the Titebond and attached the rear section. I used Titebond for that step because again I couldn't hold down it everywhere it needed to be at the same time. I could have probably pinned it but it took quite a bit of pressure to get it to lay down well, and I didn't really want to pepper the thing with pinholes either. I ended up pulling it down tight with blue tape, Ace bandage style, working my way from the wing T/E to the tail.

 Boy, that was easy!

The boys in my hood bought real hollow logs for $1.49, Testors glue for 20 cents and paint for 15 cents a bottle.
The build was about two days.
The useful life might be more or less than the build time.
Stunt Masters at $1.95 were kids' toys.

The boys in my hood bought real hollow logs for $1.49, Testors glue for 20 cents and paint for 15 cents a bottle.
The build was about two days.
The useful life might be more or less than the build time.
Stunt Masters at $1.95 were kids' toys.

I had the Scientific ME-109.  Sheet aluminum cowl.  We flew it inside a large shed which was mostly open on the 4 sides.  Made a couple of flights in a day then I don't remember whatever happened to it.

Monokote? What's that?

Ultracote? Haha!
Looking good Wayne

 Doh, I almost forgot to put the tip weight in!

 Got that done last night. First I marked and "routed" a recess into the bottom of the wing with the Dremel and a small bit. I did that so the kit supplied tip weight washer would end up fitting more flush to the wing surface when finished. Then I sanded each side of the washer for a better glue grip, filled the recess with 30 minute epoxy, and then set the washer into the wing, "burying" it...

 

I just spoke to the fellow in Canada who is suppose to make our kits, maybe by Fall.  Question:  If this kit was back in production, would you want one.  We offered it with or without an engine but I do not think that an engine will be included in the new kits.  The list price was $66.00 the kit was all laser cut.  Sowhat do you think?

Larry

I would certainly buy one!

 Just finished the first bit of color. Yellow never covers well at all so those areas were shot with white first. As soon as the white was done I went right from that to spraying the yellow over it. Next will be masking off those areas and shooting the fuselage with Miami Blue. 

 ...and unwrapped.

Wayne it surely is lookin good!

 ...and the result. 

Truly nice...and in your good meticulious fashion. Sorry I won't be able to come to the building sessions. Gigs and moving daughter to Chicago.
Those kids will have some good planes to fly.
But not as good looking as yours.
Shug

This is a lot of work for a little 1/2A.  It looks really great right now.   

 I've been slacking on the updates here, but I do finally have all of the graphics applied to the PT.

 Well planned and laid out graphics make a BIG difference in the final result, no matter the size of the model. After carefully determining desired sizes of all insignias, lettering and numbers etc., here are some tricks that I typically use for accurate placement and alignment of graphics.

 Preparing to add the U.S. Star insignias I figured I wanted them 1/2" back from the wing L/E. The first step then was to add a 1/2" wide strip of tape along the wing L/E to use as a reference and "set" the L/E to T/E spacing. Then I measured out from the fuselage sides and put a small Sharpie mark on the tape where the top center of the star needed to be, duplicating the same measurement and mark for each side, on both the top and bottom of the wings...

 With graphics you typically get ONE shot at proper application and placement. Taking a little extra time to plan, measure and line things up makes it a lot easier to get it all "right" and makes all the difference in the final result.

I guess this is not a true trainer, as there is more work in it than I would have done.   It does look awesome though.

 Thanks Doc, but it is still just a basic sheet wing trainer. Paying attention to details while building does make a difference in how the small models perform and appear or "present" too though. Along with trying to offer some tips these are also thoughts and ideas I'm trying to point out or remind people of with this thread.
 
 With the little PT here I've just been having some extra fun, practicing and testing some techniques with the build. Every once in a while I find it fun to take a break from the 'big" models and build a simple, small model. Part of that fun is trying to turn out a nice example of a model that most normally assume is just a "crappy" little plane. That doesn't always have to be the case though, the way I see it the smaller planes deserve a little extra time and a good finish too, it can be just as satisfying as doing the same with a "big" plane.

 Anyway, as of a few nights ago the final clear is on, just gotta get a chance now to do the final assembly.