Author Topic: "Little Legends" (Read 10231 times)

Mike Spiess · « **Reply #50 on:** April 19, 2007, 01:27:23 PM »

Sending money off tonight. Thanks for your work.

Roger Vizioli · « **Reply #51 on:** April 19, 2007, 06:33:51 PM »

Okay Mike.
They are ready to ship!
Thanks,
Roger

Roger Vizioli · « **Reply #52 on:** April 19, 2007, 06:36:03 PM »

e-mai has been sent to those whose plans were shipped today.

Thank you!

Roger

Robert McHam · « **Reply #53 on:** April 21, 2007, 10:33:55 AM »

Woo! Hoo! Mine have arrived!!!

Thanks Roger!!!

Robert

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #54 on:** April 21, 2007, 11:13:09 AM »

HEY-HEY-HEY Roger;

You guys know that I am straight arrow, you know how I don't--------I can't do this

I GOT MINE

"The One And Only G-Man"

Sorry Roger I couldn't help myself

Bill Little · « **Reply #55 on:** April 21, 2007, 11:16:14 AM »

Quote from: Bill Gruby on April 21, 2007, 11:13:09 AM

HEY-HEY-HEY Roger;

You guys know that I am straight arrow, you know how I don't--------I can't do this

I GOT MINE

"The One And Only G-Man" Sorry Roger I couldn't help myself

I've had mine for years........................

Peter Hess · « **Reply #56 on:** April 21, 2007, 01:39:50 PM »

Roger:
My copy of the Little Legends plans arrived today. They look terrific! Thank you for your effort. Now, to find the time to put them to their intended purpose.
My guess is that you have done a lot to get more 1/2A stunt planes flying and I am eager to hear from others who received these plans about their adventures with the Little Legends.
Peter Hess
Canton, CT

Roger Vizioli · « **Reply #57 on:** April 21, 2007, 06:29:03 PM »

Quote from: Bill Little on April 21, 2007, 11:16:14 AM

I've had mine for years........................

Bill,
Shhhh! They might get there planes built before .........- ah, never mind!

I had to do it!
Roger

Bill Little · « **Reply #58 on:** April 21, 2007, 08:46:00 PM »

Quote from: Roger Vizioli on April 21, 2007, 06:29:03 PM

Bill,
Shhhh! They might get there planes built before .........- ah, never mind! I had to do it!
Roger

I deserved it!

Mine WILL get finished!!!!!!!!! The wife has promised to go in the "Fortress of Solitude" tomorrow and help me clean up! That will get the fire lit........

Thanks for turning me on to these little jobs again.
Bill <><

Roger Vizioli · « **Reply #59 on:** April 22, 2007, 05:18:25 AM »

Bill,
If I did not know you would take it in good spirit,

I would not have said it!

Hmm, I'll have to speak with your wife.
My wife wont go near my shop area, says "It's all his!"

It has been reported that the requested LL plans are landing in various parts of the country
and sales of small balsa trees are increasing in these areas.

I think I'll have to build a "new" one to "stay up with the crowd!"

Take care,
Roger

Douglas Babb · « **Reply #60 on:** April 22, 2007, 08:42:44 AM »

Sorry I have been tied up and have not responded. Money order will be picked up and payment will be sent tomorrow.

Bill Little · « **Reply #61 on:** April 22, 2007, 02:23:43 PM »

Quote from: Roger Vizioli on April 22, 2007, 05:18:25 AM

Bill,
If I did not know you would take it in good spirit, I would not have said it!
Hmm, I'll have to speak with your wife.
My wife wont go near my shop area, says "It's all his!"

It has been reported that the requested LL plans are landing in various parts of the country
and sales of small balsa trees are increasing in these areas. I think I'll have to build a "new" one to "stay up with the crowd!"

Take care,
Roger

Roger,

The regular guys here can bust my chops anytime! I love all of you!

As to the F.o.S., the wife and I have finished the task. At least all we can do today! LOL!! I actually have my building table and counters clear! Heaven Forbid!!!!!

I am on a mission to finish up a couple projects now which I was actually too depressed to do with the shop in the condition it was in..........

Joe at S&S sent my .008 lines out to me with no problem, just got to make them up. I really want to get teh 1/2A Snapper and L.L. USA-1 out to the field! I need some real old time fun.

Come on up to Huntersville once if you can! June or October. If June, stop in for a couple days before hand and see what's going on around here.

Bill <><

Robert McHam · « **Reply #62 on:** April 23, 2007, 02:23:08 PM »

I have been studying the plans now for a few days and now I have a couple of questions at this point:

Where in the world do we find the spinners and wheels?

My favorite question is:

How does one cut the lightening holes in the foam wing cores? I see the note showing you how to further make the holes larger but can one cut these things with a bow and still come out good? What I am asking is technique. Tips? tricks?

Robert

George · « **Reply #63 on:** April 23, 2007, 03:11:22 PM »

Received my copy today. Thanks for all the effort, Roger. That extra copy of the ribs was a nice touch.

That note of endorsement by the "Big Legends" was cute.

I have the same question about the spinners and wheels. Especially spinners with different profiles. Apparently Steve Buso had the same question...with the note to send him one if you find them.

George

Roger Vizioli · « **Reply #64 on:** April 23, 2007, 07:32:08 PM »

re Wheels:
Du-Bro P/N 100MW are Mini lite 1" Wheels. I believe they also have a 1 1/4" Lite wheel. They are a little wide but can be "sanded" to shape.
IF you can find them, Peck Polymers made a Vintage Wheel, 1" Clear plastic hub, tire looks like an "o" ring. P/N PA099. They are fragile
re Spinners:
Never found any that fit the shape on the plans. Old Veco 1" spinners, if they can be found, can be used, though not the "design" shape shown on the plans.
re Foam Wing Coring - I bought my foam wings, cored, from Jim Pearson.

Any other 1/2A guys have a source for 1" or 1 1/4" Lite wheels for 1/2A planes? Please let us know.
Enjoy, post pictures when available.
Roger

minnesotamodeler · « **Reply #65 on:** April 23, 2007, 08:26:47 PM »

I'm almost embarrassed to reveal that I get my 1/2A wheels mostly from toys at the $Dollar Store...4 wheels for a buck, not bad when you can find the right size. Last one I bought was a semi, so I scored 8 wheels for that buck! 12.5 cents each, can't beat it.

Some of them I have to drill out and sleeve with aluminum tubing, but that works great too.

My LHS carries nice-looking, light wheels in the 1" to 2" range, seems like they're 3 or 4 bucks a pair. I guess the RC guys use 'em for tail wheels.

--Ray

Robert McHam · « **Reply #66 on:** April 23, 2007, 11:26:27 PM »

Quote by Ray:
"I'm almost embarrassed to reveal that I get my 1/2A wheels mostly from toys at the $Dollar Store..."

Ray, (and everyone else) I am a thrifty modeler. If I can find a deal like that I would be proud to say so. Many items of everyday use and other not thought about sources are fair game with me when it comes to making models. Like the teflon tubes used on carberator cleaner cans, brake clean and WD40. I would go to the nearest auto mechanic garage or tire store and bring a can with a label on it saying to deposit used aerosol straws here and ask if I could leave it for a while and they would gladly save some for me. Sure some probably got thrown away but I still came away with quite a bit for my own use. Those things are great for using when wire rigging a plane or using pull-pull controls.
I also use the little idler wheels in old cassette tapes for tension for same. They also make a very decent wheel hub of very light weight unless it is wider than you want for narrow wheel pants... These are also good for a pull-pull arrangement for ailerons on lightweight R/C models. Or if you are rigging a moving joystick or rudder pedals.

Now... How about those holes in the foam wing cores?

Robert

Roger Vizioli · « **Reply #67 on:** April 24, 2007, 06:38:40 AM »

Now... How about those holes in the foam wing cores?
Robert
[/quote]Check your e-mail.
Roger

Mike Spiess · « **Reply #68 on:** April 26, 2007, 02:31:14 PM »

Got the plans I can't thank you enough for making these available. They're just great I can't wait but there are other things before these.

Roger Vizioli · « **Reply #69 on:** April 27, 2007, 01:42:48 PM »

All payments received, all plans shipped.

Enjoy and post photo's whenever.

Roger

steve pagano · « **Reply #70 on:** April 27, 2007, 02:02:04 PM »

Hey guys just wondering has anyone thought of building them in full fuse. form? would it be possible/work? has any one tried it and do half A engines work when mounted inverted? most half A's i see are upright

Robert McHam · « **Reply #71 on:** April 27, 2007, 02:26:22 PM »

Actually I thought of trying a full fuse version and of course mounting the motor cylinder down.
In thinking this, I began wondering how little of power one could use. Reason I began thinking this is because I presently do not own Tee Dee For which these are obviously intended. I do have a few Cubs and Cox reedies which are radial mount. I also am lacking The 1/4" X 1/4" hardwood for the beam mounts.
Since I did not know of these plane designes before this thread was started I did not imagine their actual size though these dimensions were posted.

I still am very excited and am going to build one way or another, several if not all of these planes! How could I not?

Robert

Roger Vizioli · « **Reply #72 on:** April 27, 2007, 02:28:27 PM »

Yep, thought about it!
Have the foam core wings sheeted, it's off to the side for awhile.
Roger

Mike Spiess · « **Reply #73 on:** April 27, 2007, 02:54:03 PM »

Yes I thought of a full fuse for the Impact. And yes these little motors will fly mounted inverted. I had a Pinto with a TD .049 and a Norvel in it and they both flew great. As a matter of fact I learned the beginner pattern with it.

Mike Spiess · « **Reply #74 on:** April 27, 2007, 02:55:23 PM »

Oh by the way bettween 10 and 13oz They will fly great.

Robert McHam · « **Reply #75 on:** April 27, 2007, 11:16:36 PM »

Actually back in the day I too had a Pinto, which by the way, since it was a scaled down version of the Oriental could have a place as one of the little legends.
My Pinto had a Tee Dee .051 which I had bought especially for the job. I didn't have a scale and it never flew as I was young and covered it with emerald green Monokote and trimmed in gold. It felt so heavy and was indeed tail heavy and I simply felt that it was too heavy to fly as it sat and I hung a one ounce fishing weight on the prop and still it was tail heavy. Since I knew that I couldn't put a weight on it that far forward anyway, I simply gave up on it ever flying but darned if it didn't look great! It was a hanger queen.

I guess I should try to look for an affordable Tee Dee... If such a thing exists anymore...
Anyone got a super deal on one?

Robert

Roger Vizioli · « **Reply #76 on:** April 29, 2007, 05:44:28 AM »

I was asked if there is a source for laser cut ribs for the Little Legends. I dont know of any that are readily available, but I can ask some of the better known cutters, but first have to know how much interest there is.
Question: How many of you who obtained the LL Plans would be interested in same and how many sets would you plan to buy, naturally we need pricing before final decision.
If a reasonable source is found, we can share the setup costs then each procure his own ribs directly.

Just curious.
Roger

Peter Hess · « **Reply #77 on:** April 29, 2007, 11:24:20 AM »

Roger:
I would definitely take two sets to start with. In addition, I know of another person who somehow already had a copy of the Little Legend plans who would also like to have a couple of sets.
Thank you for undertaking yet another task that will bring pleasure and satisfaction to many.
Peter Hess
Canton, CT

Mike Spiess · « **Reply #78 on:** April 29, 2007, 01:30:03 PM »

I would take two sets of them I got my eye on the Nobler of course and the Impact. I think it would be neat to copy the paint scheme from the build articles.

Robert McHam · « **Reply #79 on:** April 29, 2007, 04:21:06 PM »

Count me as interested. It will depend dearly on cost. I have of course peen playing with the idea of cutting from foam as I have indicated previously but I do love a built up wing.

There are build articles floating around? This too would interest me, especially if any of the pics are in color. Are there scans?

Robert

Roger Vizioli · « **Reply #80 on:** April 30, 2007, 06:43:02 AM »

Build articles?

I would also like to see same.
Have a source for the laser cut ribs, will wait for more replies.
Roger

Mike Spiess · « **Reply #81 on:** April 30, 2007, 08:30:44 AM »

I didn't mean to start a rumor about build articles for these Little Legends. I meant we should paint them the same as the origanal sized planes in their build articles.

Roger Vizioli · « **Reply #82 on:** April 30, 2007, 09:35:24 AM »

Okay, you're forgiven.
Roger

Douglas Babb · « **Reply #83 on:** April 30, 2007, 05:18:08 PM »

Any price range given by your cutter.

Roger Vizioli · « **Reply #84 on:** April 30, 2007, 08:59:10 PM »

No prices yet.
Want to wait until all have had time to respond, then I will contact them.
Roger

Robert McHam · « **Reply #85 on:** April 30, 2007, 11:28:34 PM »

I have not given up on the foam wings yet. It would be nice to have at least one foam and one balsa each to compare.

As for the foam variety It has been suggested to me to go the combat style and instead of cutting cores as per plans, to use super light foam to cut the cores and put a full length balsa spar at the high point of the airfoil and instead of sheeting with balsa, covering with Doculam and skewering the TE on for the flaps. This would be a lot less work and should be lighter than the plan design yet be quite strong.

Comments?

Robert

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #86 on:** May 01, 2007, 05:42:16 AM »

Roger;

Again, I'm late but have a good excuse. My #2 son came home from Afghanistan last week and my whole family is here, all 15 of them. It has been to hectic to keep up. Sorry. I will try to catch up, but I want to spend as much time with #2 son as I can, you understand.

Now --- Foam--No Way Lazer cut ribs -- hel# yes put me down for 4 sets for now.

"Billy G"

Roger Vizioli · « **Reply #87 on:** May 01, 2007, 06:36:09 AM »

Bill G. -
"Important things" first , family.
Please welcome your son home, from me, and extend my thanks to him, for what he did for all of us.

Roger

Larry Renger · « **Reply #88 on:** May 01, 2007, 10:53:33 AM »

Rather than a Tee Dee, which, although powerful, is a pain to get to run through the full pattern, buy an AP Wasp .061 from Hobby People (See the thread on the Brodak .061 vs .049 and "Norvel no more" threads about this engine). I have two, and both will drive a 6x2 APC prop over 22K on Powermaster 15% Nitro fuel with added castor oil.

They have a carburetor instead of a CL venturi, but a paperclip to hold the thing open works just fine. The engine likes a lot of fuel to start, but once it is going it is rock solid all the way through the pattern, running suction, not even muffler pressure.

And, it is inexpensive! You will probably pay less than for a used Tee Dee.

Roger Vizioli · « **Reply #89 on:** June 08, 2007, 06:26:10 AM »

FYI
For those who ordered Little legend Laser Cut parts from Kyle (Tanks Hangar), he has received the wood and is ready to start cutting!

Roger

Roger Vizioli · « **Reply #90 on:** June 18, 2007, 08:06:03 PM »

Arrived home from Brodak's to find my laser cut parts from Kyle @ Tanks Hangar.
Beautiful job!

If you haven't done so, I recommend you consider ordering same.
Roger

Vincent Corwell · « **Reply #91 on:** June 20, 2007, 01:42:54 AM »

Please let us have some photos of
these finished planes

Vincent

Roger Vizioli · « **Reply #92 on:** June 21, 2007, 05:57:22 AM »

Vince,
Not sure if you meant the parts or finished models.
Roger

Douglas Babb · « **Reply #93 on:** June 21, 2007, 10:15:16 AM »

I recieved my parts from Kyle, the post office did their best to destroy the box but only got a corner of one piece of wood. Looked like they did everything short of putting it in a compactor while shipping it, mailman rang the doorbell then ran back to his truck and didn't even acknowledge me.

Roger Vizioli · « **Reply #94 on:** June 21, 2007, 12:41:25 PM »

Doug,
If any "pattern" was damaged, I can trace same for you from a good part.
I have a great mail "lady".
Roger

Douglas Babb · « **Reply #95 on:** June 22, 2007, 08:04:07 PM »

Only broke a piece off where there are no parts, lucky me.

Roger Vizioli · « **Reply #96 on:** June 27, 2007, 08:05:57 PM »

Just curious.
How many have ordered their Laser cut LL parts from Kyle?
Roger

Chris Brainard · « **Reply #97 on:** June 28, 2007, 05:40:17 PM »

I did. They look great!
Chris

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #98 on:** June 28, 2007, 05:48:38 PM »

Roger,
Been so busy with the "RM 1000" and now getting ready to start the "RM Extreme" I forgot all about it. Thanks for the heads up, will order Monday. Just put it on the top of the list of things to do. If you think the "RM 1000" was big, weeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllll the "RM Extreme" makes it look like a midget. LOL

"Billy G"

Roger Vizioli · « **Reply #99 on:** June 28, 2007, 06:35:52 PM »

"RM Extreme", hmmmmm.
Choosing an engine might require a trip to your local Harley Dealer, the John Deere store or maybe even a VW TDI!

Roger