Author Topic: Spitfire plans (Read 10567 times)

Terry Bolin · « **on:** February 15, 2008, 08:17:03 AM »

Who do you guys know of that offers Spitfire plans?
That may be next winter's project.

Balsa Butcher · « **Reply #1 on:** February 15, 2008, 08:35:21 AM »

The nicest (that's an understatement) Spitfire plans I have seen come from (drum role please)... Pat Johnson. I think they are the prototype of the Brodak Profile Warbird Spitfire that has not been produced yet. This design is full bodied, very close to scale w/dihedral and uses standard construction techniques, not a lot of molded parts like some of the other scale warbird stunters. Plans show a Brodak .40 but the plane is fairly large (54" or so) so other engines would be suitable. Pat's contact info is listed elsewhere in the forum. I think it would make a great winter project.

Mark Scarborough · « **Reply #2 on:** February 15, 2008, 08:44:22 AM »

Yep Pat has at least two versions of the spitfire plans. I dont have my plans list here with me. He also has one sized for a Magnum 53 class, around 630 inchs of wing. Pats plans and construction methods are very clean and easy to follow. with decent wood will build light as well. They also manage to capture the real essence of the plane without a ton of complicated work.Oh and as an added bonus, he can cut ribs and short kits now as he has a lazer cutter. contact him direct I think hes in the directory, if not his email is,,
patsplans at yahoo dot com
replace at with @ and dot with . remove the spaces and poof its an email address.. I dont like posting email addys complete as the spammers seem to find them
Pats a great guy email him,, he will hook you up

john e. holliday · « **Reply #3 on:** February 15, 2008, 09:38:32 AM »

Wait til you see my Sheeks "Spitfire". I think they came from Tom Dixon. Don't know if Flying Models still has them or not. DOC Holliday

PS:First flights will probably be in Tuscon. Just put second coat of Red Dot 1-2-3 primer in fuel tank/engine area. Can says it takes 7 days to cure completely. jeh

Bill Little · « **Reply #4 on:** February 15, 2008, 11:13:20 AM »

The *big* one is available from Windy, AFAIK. He has the .60 size Spitfire and Seafire. Both based somewhat on Patternmaster aerodynamics.

Jim Oliver · « **Reply #5 on:** February 15, 2008, 12:34:24 PM »

The plans for Windy's Spit were done by Pat; they are on Pat's list, as is the Seafire.

Jim

Mark Scarborough · « **Reply #6 on:** February 15, 2008, 12:41:56 PM »

Then that makes 4 spitfires on Pats list. He has a new one, the 630 incher that he is building now, two .40 size and Windys

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #7 on:** February 15, 2008, 12:55:48 PM »

I can't say for the "SeaFire" but the original plans for the "Spitfire" were drawn by "Bob Martens" The sign off date on them is 12/95. I have them in front of me now. Terry, they are yours for the asking.

"Billy G"

Jim Oliver · « **Reply #8 on:** February 15, 2008, 03:22:01 PM »

Strange...........

One of the local guys got a set of Spit plans from Windy that have Pat Johnston on them----could be that Pat only did the CAD??

Jim

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #9 on:** February 15, 2008, 04:03:03 PM »

Hi Jim;

Just checked all 4 sheets they all have "Bob Martens" as the drawer. I am now going to hang on to these, sorry Terry. Jim, mine are "Blue line drawings' not CAD. They came from "Windy" when the "Spitfire" was first published.

"Billy G"

Terry Bolin · « **Reply #10 on:** February 15, 2008, 10:00:29 PM »

Thanks for the offer but I understand wanting to keep them, Could you please take a picture of the fuse and wing on the plans so I can get an idea of what their like? It looks like they are 3 or 4 pages, do you remember what the cost was on those plans?
Doc, What was the Cost on Jack's plans?
Thanks for the help!

Wynn Robins · « **Reply #11 on:** February 15, 2008, 10:26:51 PM »

I have 7 different spitfire plans - I can e-mail copies to you if you would like.

FWIW - Windys' "spitfire" is TERRIBLE - no real resemblance at all......

The sheeks plan is much the same - very elongated fuse and not very spitfire like really......anyway - that is only my opinion...

The Brodak kit is coming out this year apparently - Pat Johnson has the plans - and this one actually LOOKS like a spitfire.........

Terry Bolin · « **Reply #12 on:** February 15, 2008, 10:45:44 PM »

This spitfire search is a new thing for me so is the Brodak kit going to be a profile or built up? What engine size are they going to use?
But if you don't mind e-mail a little info on your plans also. At this time, I think I am interest in a 40 size plane.
Thanks for your help!

Balsa Butcher · « **Reply #13 on:** February 15, 2008, 11:49:52 PM »

I may be going out on a limb here but I believe the kit Brodak will release will be a profile Spitfire. This is a full fuselage, very scale appearing Spitfire. It features a thick airfoil, good numbers and straightforward construction, much like Pat's P-51 that was published in June 2007 Model Aviation.

I think it is a MK17 or so. I remember it having rectangular wingtips, making a line slider easier to install but still featured the turtle-deck canopy as opposed to the much later bubble canopy version. If you are a Spitfire fan, you will want to have this plan in your collection, whether you plan to build it or not. Engine depicted is a Brodak 40 and Brodak hardware. This really does sound like the one you are looking for!

Randy Powell · « **Reply #14 on:** February 16, 2008, 12:25:04 AM »

Yea, I've seen pics of Pat's Spit. Very cool, though I think he should have gone with a Malcolm Hood layout, but that's just me. It's very scale like version of a later model Spitfire.

Tom McClain · « **Reply #15 on:** February 16, 2008, 05:45:06 AM »

If it is scale like appearance that you are after, the closest CLPA Spitfire is the one by Mark Freeman. They were published with a construction article in American Aircraft Modeler August 1973 powered by a ST 46 with plans inked by Chuck Jackson. It is a beautiful rendition of a later Mark.

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #16 on:** February 16, 2008, 06:34:06 AM »

Terry;

Again lady luck smiles on you, I came across no less that 4 copies of the "Urtnowski Spitfire" Guess I was gonna build it once. PM me an address to send them to. Wish I had your luck. LOL

"Billy G"

Shultzie · « **Reply #17 on:** February 16, 2008, 10:24:48 AM »

Quote from: Tom McClain on February 16, 2008, 05:45:06 AM

If it is scale like appearance that you are after, the closest CLPA Spitfire is the one by Mark Freeman. They were published with a construction article in American Aircraft Modeler August 1973 powered by a ST 46 with plans inked by Chuck Jackson. It is a beautiful rendition of a later Mark.

Mark's beautiful flying model was truly one of those models that make ya say...WOW!
As you can tell after looking at the photo and the plans...just how much AL RABE'S models influnced so many of todays beautiful scale stunters..huh?

Sam Laughery · « **Reply #18 on:** February 16, 2008, 11:10:58 AM »

John has three warbirds on the drawing board. The Corsair, Bearcat, and Spitfire. All were designed and drawn by Pat Johnson and all three look great. The Corsair will be profile, the Spitfire will be full bodied and the Bearcat will most likely be full bodied. A prototype of the profile Corsair was built by Joe Messinger who is a member of John's club. I have the prototype and have flown it with both a 40 and 46 on it. The B40 is plenty. There is a picture of it in the last CLW. John has someone building the spitfire prototype but neither of the other two 'official' prototypes kits have been cut. As most of you know, John almost always builds each model he puts out before releasing it. John asked me to make some changes to the corsair wing to make it easier to build so it is moving along. The Spitfire should be out this year. It is going to be a great looking plane. The canopies are in the works. Not sure about the other two. John has all the plans but I don't know if he is selling them until he has built one and has all of his modifications made.

Sam

Terry Bolin · « **Reply #19 on:** February 16, 2008, 01:27:14 PM »

Hi guys, My email is down for few hours, it may be Sunday but hold on, I will get back to ya.
Don, the plans above look good and detailed. I can't enlarge them to see what size wing and motor they are. It looked like those were from a magazine from the picture. If so, what were they in, I may have them.
thanks !

Wynn Robins · « **Reply #20 on:** February 16, 2008, 08:45:11 PM »

Terry - when I get back to work I will send you the plans I have - I have the Spitfire III as pictured in above post.....it is designed for a 60

The Brodak one is full fuse - designed around the Brodak 40 it is Mk XVI so is clipped wing as per the above, but does not have the bubble canopy - like REAL spits!!!!

Will send plans sometime next week....just busy looking after the wife and the little man that turned up.......

Terry Bolin · « **Reply #21 on:** February 16, 2008, 10:10:11 PM »

I sat down with one of the other fliers today and we talked about building the Spitfires. There are atlest two of us commiting to building these planes. Thanks to Everyone for your help! Looking forward to THIS !
Terry
Send me a PM and I will supply you with address.

Gordon Tarbell · « **Reply #22 on:** February 18, 2008, 08:31:26 PM »

Where could I get a copy of the plans for the Mark Freeman version?

Wynn Robins · « **Reply #23 on:** February 18, 2008, 09:39:05 PM »

e-mail me - I can e-mail you a copy

Wynn Robins · « **Reply #24 on:** February 18, 2008, 09:44:39 PM »

Gordon - I can e-mail you a full size scan - just PM me

Shultzie · « **Reply #25 on:** February 20, 2008, 10:15:17 AM »

Quote from: Terry Bolin on February 16, 2008, 01:27:14 PM

Hi guys, My email is down for few hours, it may be Sunday but hold on, I will get back to ya.
Don, the plans above look good and detailed. I can't enlarge them to see what size wing and motor they are. It looked like those were from a magazine from the picture. If so, what were they in, I may have them.
thanks !

I have the magazine...but sadly some of the pages in the center of the issue are missing.
The magazine is quite detailed and extensive...so some of the real meaty building stuff is missing?
If I remember the magazine arrived in the mail with some of the pages actually stapled in the wrong sequence with page 73- skipps to page 65??? DA??? and then printed on the back side of page 75-----is printed 106??? (one the same page???) Someone at the printing co. must have had a BAD DAY?

Check out Marks last page...where he gives credit to our friend and mentor...Al Rabe.

I'll send u a "ZZZZZZZZZROK'D COPIES of the article for ref.

Bill Little · « **Reply #26 on:** February 20, 2008, 11:30:25 AM »

I need to look for that magazine. I have it somewhere (saw it lately!) but forgot that the Spitfire was in that one.

Randy Powell · « **Reply #27 on:** February 20, 2008, 11:39:01 AM »

Not to be picky, but it's Pat Johnston, not Johnson.

wmiii · « **Reply #28 on:** February 20, 2008, 02:11:58 PM »

If you go to post #17 and open the plans, there are 3 items that have been the subject of other
threads. having the fuel pick up go to the inside of the circle, split flap horns on a swept forward trailing edge, and a removable wing.

Walter

Terry Bolin · « **Reply #29 on:** February 20, 2008, 06:37:47 PM »

Wynn, email me a copy too please!
Terry B

Wynn Robins · « **Reply #30 on:** February 21, 2008, 02:47:17 AM »

Terry - I sent 2 emails off to you today - did you get them?

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #31 on:** February 23, 2008, 08:23:52 AM »

These are the plans for the "Spitfire" Pat Johnston is building. I also now have his plans for the "Spitfire" Windy built so that I can compare the two. The ones I have by Bob Martens and Pats'

"Billy G"

Tony D · « **Reply #32 on:** February 26, 2008, 02:27:31 PM »

I have a Sample kit of the Brodak Spitfire kit. It is a full built up fuse. body (Not a built up profile fuse)
The kit is a real work of art. Well worth the wait.

Balsa Butcher · « **Reply #33 on:** February 26, 2008, 04:15:29 PM »

That is great news Tony - Thanks!

Terry Bolin · « **Reply #34 on:** February 27, 2008, 07:26:15 AM »

Tony, have you heard when they will be releasing the Kit at Brodak?

Wynn Robins · « **Reply #35 on:** February 27, 2008, 01:06:29 PM »

John said they are expected later this year - so we will all be hanging out for that.

Author Topic: Spitfire plans (Read 10567 times)

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