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Title: NATS Winning Plane/Engine Choices
Post by: Clayton Smith on July 25, 2008, 05:45:58 AM
What were the top two NATS finishers' plane design/engine combinations?  Old Time, Classic, Advanced, Open?

Clayton Smith
AMA 16879
High Point, NC
Title: Re: NATS Winning Plane/Engine Choices
Post by: Brett Buck on July 25, 2008, 09:49:45 AM
What were the top two NATS finishers' plane design/engine combinations?  Old Time, Classic, Advanced, Open?

     I only know Open for sure. Orestes used a Discovery Retro 60 in a Mace R2 Shark kit from Yuri Yatsenko. I used a RO-Jett 61 BSE (original timing version) in an Infinity built from scratch.

      Brett
Title: Re: NATS Winning Plane/Engine Choices
Post by: Randy Powell on July 25, 2008, 10:27:13 AM
Brett,

And when, exactly, are you going to publish the "3 barn doors flying in formation"? I mean, it's a multi-time top 5 finisher, after all.    ;D
Title: Re: NATS Winning Plane/Engine Choices
Post by: RandySmith on July 25, 2008, 01:29:49 PM
Open

Orsetes Hernadez Shark (Yatsenko) with a DR 61
Brett Buck Infinity ( Brett) RO JETT 61
Derek Barry DREADNOUGHT ( Randy Smith) PA 61 RE
Bill Rich  SV-11 (Randy Smith) PA 65 RE
Windy Spitfire (Windy)  RO JETT 91
Howard Rush IMPACT (Paul Walker) RO JETT

Advanced

Germanio(Alex)Becerril Classic (Yatsenko??)   PA 61 RE muffled
Adrian Dominguez  Shark-round nose (Yatsenko)  PA 65 RE muffled
Rich Giacobone  Stuka (Rich G)  RO Jett
Enrigue Diez   Classic

Sr.

Pat Gibson  Ringmaster very much up dated

Junior

Ryan Young  PA 61 RE piped

Classic

Keith Trostle  TA 152 (Keith)  Merlin PA 40 RE muffler
Jim Lynch Super Ares (Werwage) Merlin PA 40 re muffler
Mike McHenry  A7A Corsair II Aero Tiger .36
Gene Martine ( Mackey Lark) Aero Tiger .36
Allen Goff (Mackey Lark) Aero Tiger .36

Old Tyme

Keith Trostle  Big Job DS .60
Paul Lagan  Jamison Spl. AT .36
Dale Barry  Barnstormer Fox .35
Burt Brokaw Jamison Spl. Brodak .40
Charles Reeves  Big Job Fox .59

Title: Re: NATS Winning Plane/Engine Choices
Post by: Randy Powell on July 25, 2008, 02:09:08 PM
I'm told the Pat Gibson plane is the much updated, foam wing Ringmaster done by Pat Johnston.
Title: Re: NATS Winning Plane/Engine Choices
Post by: Alan Hahn on July 25, 2008, 02:26:45 PM
That must be some Ringmaster! H^^
Title: Re: NATS Winning Plane/Engine Choices
Post by: Brett Buck on July 25, 2008, 03:27:45 PM

Pat Gibson  Ringmaster very much up dated


   With a Supertigre ST34.

    Brett
Title: Re: NATS Winning Plane/Engine Choices
Post by: Mark Scarborough on July 25, 2008, 04:12:24 PM
as a note of information, the Rinmaster is called the RM+P, it was designed by Pat. It uses a solid foam core wing with a small spar cap imbeded in the surface top and bottom. very simple but apparantly very effective. I have one on the board right now for my stepdaughter, she is building it herself. Reports say it comes in in the very low 20 oz range, I heard of one that was 21 or 22 oz! It has a modern airfoil. In short, it only looks like a ringmaster.
Should note that this project was a collaboration with Dee Rice.
Title: Re: NATS Winning Plane/Engine Choices
Post by: Brett Buck on July 25, 2008, 05:29:21 PM
as a note of information, the Rinmaster is called the RM+P, it was designed by Pat. It uses a solid foam core wing with a small spar cap imbeded in the surface top and bottom. very simple but apparantly very effective. I have one on the board right now for my stepdaughter, she is building it herself. Reports say it comes in in the very low 20 oz range, I heard of one that was 21 or 22 oz! It has a modern airfoil. In short, it only looks like a ringmaster.
Should note that this project was a collaboration with Dee Rice.


    One thing I know about it is that a ST34 with a 10-6 makes it go very very fast!

     Brett
Title: Re: NATS Winning Plane/Engine Choices
Post by: Just One-eye on July 25, 2008, 06:25:39 PM
The only Tigre similar to that one, mounted on anything similar in size that I have been on the field with was running with 11-4 props, and still seemed fast, although I didn't clock it at the time. 
Title: Re: NATS Winning Plane/Engine Choices
Post by: Randy Powell on July 25, 2008, 08:18:17 PM
Brett,

It's just young reflexes. To him, it probably seems to crawl. I think Pat's version has an FP25
Title: Re: NATS Winning Plane/Engine Choices
Post by: Dennis Moritz on July 25, 2008, 09:00:47 PM
Worthy of note, I believe, are the power choices of two Philly Flyers that finished in the top 10 of Open, in fact they took 7th and 8th. Dan Banjok flying his original Vista powered by a Saito 72 was 7th. Mike Palko ran one half point behind flying a Nu powered electric Mustang. Mike's plane is a Bob Hunt design originally configured for IC power. Mike made the conversion. He also garnered 19 appearance points. Not bad. Won rookie of the year. Congratulations to Mike and Dan!