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Mustang Stunter
« on: June 23, 2013, 08:14:18 PM »
Digging in the attic of the garage I found a couple of my old time planes.  The Mustang Stunter I built for my son to fly.  He used to ride up to the local school yard on his bike with his friend and they would fly all day there.   This plane was beat and abused by my 14 year old son. He did some quick repairs to keep it flying.  The maple mounts were cut off even with the firewall which then got a nylon motor mount bolted on. The ABS turtle deck was shortened and there was a hole in the top of the  inboard wing.  He said it was sluggish on maneuvers and not very fast.  I took out the old shortened mounts and put in full length mounts.  I cut a new bulkhead and since the tank looked good I reused it. Epoxied in wood to restore nose to finished look.  Not sure what to do about repainting.  This was painted silver but I don't recall the type of paint and clear coated with polyurethane.   This is turned almost amber in color.  I was thinking of sanding it down with 400 and reshooting it with Rustoleum.  I cleared the repairs with water based urethane.
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Re: Mustang Stunter
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2013, 07:05:49 PM »
Rustoleum metallic colors are not fuel proof, according to most reports.

Best advice I can offer is to read the Paint and Finishing section posts about Rustoleum and Polycrilic.

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Re: Mustang Stunter
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2013, 07:57:24 PM »
Read that already Chris --- I am going to use the recommended high performance solid colors.  I am thinking of Richard Petty Blue.  Won't look like a Mustang but then other than the paint scheme it didn't look like one anyway.  The urethane yellowed so dramatically, this thing looks more like bronze than silver.  Just want it flyable.  I put an OS 40 FPS on it for a little more power.  I am thinking that the plane was a bit too heavy for the Fox. 

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Re: Mustang Stunter
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2013, 05:44:43 PM »
Rustoleum sprayed on wet ... laid down good.   Shows every defect in the skin.   Needs some color trim.   At least it will be fuel proof in a few days.


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Re: Mustang Stunter
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2013, 07:43:09 AM »
Looks good in the picture except for the canopy.   Oh, now I see it is the masking tape. LL~ LL~   Still looks good to me.
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Re: Mustang Stunter
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2013, 04:22:27 PM »
Paint developed some small checking overnight.  Not sure why this happened but I am flying with it this weekend.    Will be first time control line in 25 years ... any suggestions?   

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Re: Mustang Stunter
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2013, 08:48:21 PM »
Paint developed some small checking overnight.  Not sure why this happened but I am flying with it this weekend.    Will be first time control line in 25 years ... any suggestions?   

Joe

 Let it dry another week, at least.  y1
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Re: Mustang Stunter
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2013, 10:19:26 AM »
Rustoleum sprayed on wet ... laid down good.   Shows every defect in the skin.   Needs some color trim.   At least it will be fuel proof in a few days.


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Rustoleum clear is NOT fuel proof.

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Re: Mustang Stunter
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2013, 03:12:41 PM »
Rustoleum clear is NOT fuel proof.


"I am going to use the recommended high performance solid colors.  I am thinking of Richard Petty Blue."
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Re: Mustang Stunter
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2013, 10:09:21 PM »

 Huh? Going to use? Looks like it's already blue in the pics...

 Rustoleum colors should work fine for you, if give it a chance to cure well. y1
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Re: Mustang Stunter
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2013, 10:29:48 PM »
Huh? Going to use? Looks like it's already blue in the pics...

 Rustoleum colors should work fine for you, if give it a chance to cure well. y1


Wayne, he quoted himself from earlier in the thread as a response to Allen's comment about Rustoleum clear not being fuel proof. He had no intention of using clear.

55chevr, do not attempt to get fuel on you freshly painted plane. Rustoleum is pretty fuel proof, but it takes a few weeks of cure time to work. If you fly it this weekend, the exhaust is likely remove your paint job.



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Re: Mustang Stunter
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2013, 10:51:15 PM »

Wayne, he quoted himself from earlier in the thread as a response to Allen's comment about Rustoleum clear not being fuel proof. He had no intention of using clear.

55chevr, do not attempt to get fuel on you freshly painted plane. Rustoleum is pretty fuel proof, but it takes a few weeks of cure time to work. If you fly it this weekend, the exhaust is likely remove your paint job.





 Yep Clint, I figured he didn't plan to use the clear.

 What I'm getting at is that the colors will work fine, and actually hold up quite well, but you have to let them fully cure and harden. y1
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Re: Mustang Stunter
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2013, 12:05:45 AM »
  What I'm getting at is that the colors will work fine, and actually hold up quite well, but you have to let them fully cure and harden. y1

Yup. I usually let Rustoleum cure at least a month. Might sound like a long time, but my paint never comes off either.
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Re: Mustang Stunter
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2013, 06:37:16 AM »
I have the plane in the garage attic baking in 120*.   Will have a week on the paint by Saturday.  Might fly it next week.  The original paint was urethane silver top coated with clear urethane.  Certainly fuel proof but really yellowed over time.  Looks bronze.  Should clean strip all the paint and start over but I covered the wing with 1/2 oz Fiberglas cloth and epoxy and stripper will attack it.  If it survives the summer I will rebuild it as a profile fuselage. Inverted engines never worked for me.

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Re: Mustang Stunter
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2013, 11:18:59 PM »
Yup. I usually let Rustoleum cure at least a month. Might sound like a long time, but my paint never comes off either.

 Yup, that's the deal. y1
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Re: Mustang Stunter
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2013, 11:35:10 AM »
Flew the old Shoestring this morning at Flushing Meadow Park. I have to wait a bit longer for the Rustoleum to cure on the Mustang Stunter. The venerable Fox 29 started right up. The good news is I came home with a plane.  The bad news is that I didn't get any better after a 25 year lay off.   Fortunately, I didn't get significantly worse.  I only put 2 ounces of fuel to get a short flight for first time.  No problems.  I got to meet some good guys there.  Now I am inspired to get into building something nice to fly.



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Re: Mustang Stunter
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2013, 07:49:06 PM »
 Sounds like a great start "Chev"! y1
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Re: Mustang Stunter
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2013, 07:33:14 AM »
Now Joe, just stay with it.
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Re: Mustang Stunter
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2013, 07:29:31 PM »
Went to FMP this morning.  The New York Stunt Team was out in full force.  A more appropriate name would be "The Electric Flying Circus"  I declined to fly as I would have been the only IC airplane upsetting the tranquil setting.  I brought the newly repainted Mustang Stunter and the venerable Shoestring. Age wise they are a combined 60 years old.   I was encouraged to fly by a few of the 6 electric stunt flyers for the purpose of repelling mosquitos.  I really went to learn as much as possible about electric control line.  This is a very knowledgeable group and I came away with a lot of insight into what it will take.

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Re: Mustang Stunter
« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2013, 08:13:02 PM »
In the recent (20 years has become "recent" for me!) there was a large group of "sport" fliers at FMP.  I totally forget their group name, but someone will fill that in!

They were there flying while the contest was going on that my son and I drove up for.  The best part (besides the contest) was the going away party for Joe Ortiz while we were there!

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Re: Mustang Stunter
« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2013, 09:33:06 PM »
I weighed the Mustang Stunter and it is a real porker. 60.2 ounces. At least it should penetrate the wind.   I was thinking of using the wing and building a profile fuselage.  But after weighing it I think I will just fly it until it falls apart.   

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