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Offline L0U CRANE

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N-30/Super 70 at the Karl Marschinke AA, Tucson
« on: October 02, 2009, 09:37:17 PM »
Well,

No one produced a model eligible for our "Super 70s" event last Saturday.

(INFO: Super 70s had been discussed most of this year in the Cholla Choppers meetings, etc., by some heavy-weights in contact with many BIGS.  It restricts eligibility to the decade of the 1970's. Models appearing outside the decade -earlier or later - are ineligible. Nos-30 has a sliding 30-year cutoff, and allows entry by models eligible for earlier-era events. "Our" purpose was to see what interest there was in models from the decade of the 1970's - distinct in several ways from the Classic era models - not yet tuned pipe nor 4-cycle nor universally higher-revving schneurles on flat pitch props...)

We offered the 70's-decade event mingled with Classic in one flight order, on one circle, same judges and time, with scores to be separated at the scoreboard. A flier could 'declare' entry to Classic or "70s" -but not both. Classic entry was good, and most of the same models were back Sunday, to fly EXPERT Class.

Nos-30 would have allowed models up to the end of 1979 - iow, the same era as our S-70 idea, but Nos-30 will advance to models from 1980 next year. S-70 wouldn't. We isolated S-70 so that we could see if there was sufficient interest in that era, or if it would be just another opportunity to trophy with the same Classic - even occasionally OT - model. We didn't get the entry, so the question is still open.

Wish we'd had some S-70 or NOS-30 entry. I have good memories of the advances through that era... Of course, we'll relook at the idea as support for Nos-30 emerges across the nation - we haven't by any means ruled it out! However, the absence of support this time will also be considered...
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Re: N-30/Super 70 at the Karl Marschinke AA, Tucson
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2009, 06:21:12 AM »
It's going to take a little time. Building a 70's ship is as much work as building a modern stunt ship.. 6 months time investment for most of us.  Think the N-30 idea was brilliant as it includes the existing classics and I'm one that believes my Skylark can compete head to head with any 70's design. Actually I know it can, back in the 70's I was competing with a kit built Sterling Skylark in Advanced and holding my own.

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Re: N-30/Super 70 at the Karl Marschinke AA, Tucson
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2009, 03:40:46 PM »
Stunt ships take time to build bro!! You have to remember, this is in addition to the other build projects cats may have such as; that world beater tuned pipe job, and that classic to end all classic models.
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Re: N-30/Super 70 at the Karl Marschinke AA, Tucson
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2009, 07:03:02 PM »
Well for me, since I have limited building time, it takes me about a year to build a stunt ship.  I didn't start construction on my Oriental Plus until February, and now it is October, where I'm starting the finishing process on a couple smaller pieces, in fact  the only thing I still need to finish constructing is the fuse.

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Re: N-30/Super 70 at the Karl Marschinke AA, Tucson
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2009, 05:22:20 PM »
To Jim Pollock - I was involved in getting Jim Mannall recontacted about the NIMROD history. None of the NIMRODs truly comply with the Classic requirement, but are good prospects for the 70's-era eligible event(s). (Incidentally, the various numbered versions were not intended to indicate redesigns, as much as this was the first or third or whatever example that he'd built. Sure there were changes from one to the next but he didn't consider them new design variations.) Jim M's remarks are posted on Dave Day's site in the UK:

http://www.iroquois.free-online.co.uk/

Everyone else included the idea it takes a lot of time to build a stunt model - so true. We'd been discussing the Tucson Super-70s idea since about this year's VSC. We have club members who published successful stunters in the 70's decade.

Personally, I think it would more likely take longer to build many of the 1970's designs than a current CLPA model. Redesigning an original structure and pieces to suitable current engine+structure+etc practice, is not required with a current model.
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